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    001 - "Josiah Clark" <sunbitter - thanksgiving birds....
    002 - Dan Murphy <murphsf@att.n - woops!  sorry
    003 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Re: [SFBirds] thanksgiving birds....
    004 - David Armstrong <darmstro - birds this am

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From: "Josiah Clark" <sunbittern@hotmail.com>
Subject: thanksgiving birds....
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:35:54 PST

   Gobble gobble everyone.
   Thanksgiving produced some great birds for folks all over seems like. I
got out a few times. Fri morning Ivan, Jim Tietz and I birded the Mnt Lake
and GG Park by bicycle. We had 5 Orange Cr Warblers. 1 of the race Orestrus
(Rockies) was by the Tea Garden and Stow lake. In the flock between this
last spot and the Log Cabin, was a dull Nashville Warbler. On Strawberry
hill was a facinating Townsend's hybrid. THe bird appeared white on the
breast and throat and the face was bisected, aboved the eye like a
Townsends, but below the eye was almost more like a BT Gray. (A mystery to
all of us).   Aside from a few Ruddy Ducks, still no ducks at Spreckles or
Stow Lake. Over 60 We Meadowlarks at Lobos dunes were a high for me...
        Sunday PM, a mnt  bike ride with Ivan, Mike Roberts and others into
the
marin headlands produced 7 species of Raptor and 3 species of Owl. The
highlight was a Short Eared Owl across from the horse stables by Bobcat
trail in Rodeo Valley hunting at dusk.
Tenessee valley had 4 Bl Gray Gnatcatchers by the pond at Haypress Camp and
2 bluebirds and a Loggerhead shrike on the wires above the parking lot. WT
Swifts abound. A bobcat stalked rodents amongst the rushes until disapearing
on que to annoying Mill Valley Jibber Jabber. A Varied Thrush posted on a
lone Doug Fir on Wolfback ridge.
   Anyone been to Crissy lately, I was on break...
   Josiah

>From: "Josiah Clark" <sunbittern@hotmail.com>
>To: sfbirds@lists.best.com
>Subject: [SFBirds] only squeeky wheels get oil.
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:41:22 PST
>
>Hey all,
>the following letter is from a Ranger in the Presidio..
>    I think this might be a good time to remind some of the Presidio
>administration how we feel about tenants letting their cats hunt wildlife
>in our new National Park.
>
>Some adresses: Carol_Prince@GGNPA.org , www.presidiotrust.com
>
>
>From ranger...
>
>     I am writing to alert all those concerned about domestic/feral cats in
>     the Presidio about the recent rise in cats in the Baker Beach area
>     east of Lincoln Blvd.  The Field Office for Natural Resources is
>     located in bldgs. 1539 and 1599 at the top of the Baker Beach
>     Apartments.  Today three domestic cats came into our office from the
>     surrounding area.  I observed one hunting birds in our courtyard.  I
>     was able to get the information on the home of two of the cats .
>
>     This new population of cats is now added to the already apparently
>     dense population of feral cats that we see hunting daily in the
>     Presidio.  Many of these cats are also fed at "feeding stations" that
>     are apparently monitored by cat-loving volunteers (who no doubt are
>     kind and caring people, meaning no harm to other wildlife). Cats are a
>     primary threat to birds nesting and foraging on or near the ground in
>     the Presidio, including one of two remaining populations of California
>     quail in San Francisco.
>
>     I bring this up both in support of the continuing efforts of the Trust
>     and the NPS to educate residential tenants about "do's and don'ts" for
>     pet owners, and also to encourage dialogue about enforcement
>     solutions. I hope that we can find ways to ensure that our stated
>     intention of keeping the Presidio as a refuge for wildlife is carried
>     out in practice.
>
>     Thanks for your consideration and solutions,
>
>     Marc Albert
>     Presidio Natural Resources
>
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From: Dan Murphy <murphsf@att.net>
Subject: woops!  sorry
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:12:11 -0800

Hi,

Sorry about that last message which left most of you wondering.  I have
another e-mail list for the Audubon Canyon Ranch Property and Conservation
Committee which I chair.  I mistakenly sent the agenda for Tuesday's meeting
to you and not to them.  I'll try to get it right next time. :-)

Best,  Dan

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] thanksgiving birds....
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:45:25 -0800

Yeah, I picked up Northern Cardinal,  Mockingbird, House Finch, Mallard, BC
NIght-heron,  Wedge-tailed Shearwater, Saffron Finch, Gray Fnacolin, Nutmeg
Mannikin, Java Sparrow....some Pilot and Melon-headed Whales, and did I
mention mongoose?  But then I was in Hawaii so nothing unusual.  Good ivews
of the endangered Io (hawk).

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From: David Armstrong <darmstrong99@yahoo.com>
Subject: birds this am
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:14:50 -0800 (PST)

Stopped in Strybing Arboretum this a.m. before work.
Just before the rain started we saw a male Bufflehead
on the pond, along w/ a female hooded merganser and
female ring-necked duck.
David Armstrong

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n315 --------------

    001 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Presidio Trails Scoping Meeting! 12/1
    002 - "Paul Saraceni" <Paul.Sar - Mt. Davidson, 12/01/99 (7:30-8:20 AM)
    003 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Re: [SFBirds] Mt. Davidson, 12/01/99
(7:30-8:20 AM)

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n315.1 ---------------

From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Presidio Trails Scoping Meeting! 12/1
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:38:35 +0000

You Are Invited!

There will be a Public Scoping Meeting for the Presidio Trails Master
Plan December 1, 1999
6:00 to 9:00 PM

Golden Gate Club, Building 135 in the Presidio
Phone 415/561-4323 for more info

Here is your chance to speak on behalf of birders needs and wants in the
Presidio. You should not expect the people who make these trails to know
anything about the needs of birders. It would be nice to avoid access
problems like those at Lobos Dunes, your comments will be greatly
appreciated.

I would like to suggest we ask to have a birding trail created. The
trail would allow access to the best birding areas in the Presidio.

I am sorry this is so last minute, I've been in New York and just got
the note yesterday

Alan

p.s. I have the flu, and I am not sure I will go.

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n315.2 ---------------

From: "Paul Saraceni" <Paul.Saraceni@derwin.com>
Subject: Mt. Davidson, 12/01/99 (7:30-8:20 AM)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:08:13 -0800

Sightings of local interest:

Band-tailed Pigeon 120 (1 large flock flying south, high overhead)
Rufous Hummingbird 1 imm. m. (mostly rufous back with only a small amount of
green in center; frequenting brushy lower slope on n. side of hill)
"Yellow-shafted" Flicker 1
W. Meadowlark 1 (on hillside)
Purple Finch 1 (calling flyover)
Lesser Goldfinch 2

Paul Saraceni
paul.saraceni@derwin.com

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n315.3 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Mt. Davidson, 12/01/99 (7:30-8:20 AM)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 10:56:38 -0800

female Ho. Merganser still in duck pond at Strybing Arb, GGPark
also, calling Kingfisher over in the California section

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n316 --------------

    001 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Great Egrets at Ft. Mason
    002 - Dan Murphy <murphsf@att.n - cbc fees

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n316.1 ---------------

From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Great Egrets at Ft. Mason
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 08:35:54 +0000

Last night I spoke with Nancy Horner (GGNRA Park Planer) she said that
she saw six Great Egrets roosting in a Eucalyptus at Fort Mason. Has
anyone else seen these birds? She also mentioned that there has been a
Great Blue Heron at Crissy Field.

The trail meeting was well attended by dog walkers who wanted more off
leash areas and bike riders, some of whom wanted off road activities
areas. I was the only person to speak for birding interests at the main
project over view discussion.

Alan

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n316.2 ---------------

From: Dan Murphy <murphsf@att.net>
Subject: cbc fees
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 17:17:13 -0800

Hi,

There is a rumor out there that Christmas Bird Count fees were upped to $10
and another rumor that they were upped to $15.  Neither rumor is true.  I
just
checked my compiler's packet and they are set at the usual $5.  If you hear
anyone suggesting otherwise please inform them the cbc fees are unchanged
this year.

Thanks a lot,

Dan Murphy

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n317 --------------

    001 - Gasstation@aol.com        - Recent birds
    002 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Steller Jays
    003 - Htcotter@aol.com          - North American Birds

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n317.1 ---------------

From: Gasstation@aol.com
Subject: Recent birds
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:13:15 EST

I've been out a bit lately, and though nothing earth-shattering I've managed
some nice stuff. Yesterday at the Cliff house I had 3 Surfbirds, among the
roosting Willets. Not much going on further out, but good numbers of Pac
Loons and Western/Clark's Grebe. Off of the Fort Funston viewing platform I
had 13 Black Scoters, and a couple of White-winged Scoters. Also a Northern
Harrier over the ice-plant to the south. I suspect this was the same harrier
I later had at Lake Merced. South of the concrete bridge was one last
Bonoparte's Gull, and on the shore next to the bridge was a first year
Thayer's Gull. Isilas Creek had a Black-crowned Night Heron and a Northern
Mockingbird. At the point at which Carroll Street turns toward Candlestick
Park I had a Merlin. On the rocks in the inlet at that same corner, there
were 2 Black Oystercatchers, and 3 White-winged Scoters. The Scaup flock to
the south of the point had a handle full of Common Goldeneye, but I couldn't
re-find the Oldsquaw or the Barrow's Goldeneye.
    Today I checked out GGP a little, and it was pretty quiet. Had 12
California Quail in Strybing (9 males, 3 females) below the Malesian
Rhododendron area, 3 Varied Thrush by the Moon-viewing Pond, and an
Orange-crowned Warbler and Lincoln's Sparrow in the Succulent Garden. I also
had 2 Varied Thrush at Middle Lake.

Kevin McKereghan
Gasstation@aol.com

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Steller Jays
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 15:29:19 -0800

This morning:
Two St Jays at Lily Lake, another in Rhodie Dell, GGP
O/C Warbler in Rhodie Dell
R/N Duck in Lily Lake with mallards galore
most of the usual suspects as well
No Var Thursh seen,  but ti was a verrry cold early morning

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From: Htcotter@aol.com
Subject: North American Birds
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 17:23:48 EST

Hi All,
As San Francisco  complier for North American Birds,  I would like to see if
I could solicit sightings, descriptions for interetsing/ rare birds seen
from
August to November in San Francisco.  Please email them to me at
htcotter@aol.com.
Thanks,
Hugh

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n318 --------------

    001 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - SF Kite, Shrike, Eu Wigeon
    002 - "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@be - Web site update
    003 - Htcotter@aol.com          - Re: [SFBirds] SF Kite, Shrike, Eu
Wigeon
    004 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Nashville, White-throated, Eursian
&yellowlegs

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n318.1 ---------------

From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: SF Kite, Shrike, Eu Wigeon
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 17:06:31 +0000

SF Birders,

Had a nice today, checked Bay View Park, Heron's Head Park, and
Candlestick Point.

Common Loon
Pied-billed Grebe
Horned Grebe
Eared Grebe
Western Grebe
Clark's Grebe
Brown Pelican
Double-creasted Cormorant
Pelagic Cormorant
Great Blue Heron
Snowy Egret
Canada Goose
Mallard
Eurasian Wigeon, found by Andrew Rush
American Wigeon
Greater Scaup
Lesser Scaup
Surf Scoater
White-winged Scoter
Common Goldeneye (missed the Barrow's)
Bufflehead
Red-breasted Merganser
Ruddy Duck
White-tailed Kite- Candlestick SRA, near the rubble pile; no Burrowing
owl.
Red-tailed Hawk
American Kestrel
American Coot
Black-bellied Plover
Killdeer
Black Oystercatcher
Lesser Yellowlegs
Willet
Spotted Sandpiper
Ruddy Turnstone
Least Sandpiper
Dunlin
Mew Gull
California Gull
Western Gull
Glaucous-winged Gull
Pigeon Guillemot
Rock Dove
Mourning Dove
Anna's Hummingbird
Northern Flicker
Black Phoebe
Say's Phoebe
Scrub Jay
American Crow
Common Raven
Bushtit
Bewick's Wren
American Robin
Northern Mockingbird
Loggerhead Shrike — seen on a wire at the Hunter's Point Shipyard from
Candlestick, yes the bird was very small and far-away.
European Starling
Orange-crowned Warbler
Yellow-rumped Warbler
California Towhee
Savannah Sparrow
Golden-crowned Sparrow
White-crowned Sparrow
Dark-eyed Junko
Red-winged Blackbird
Brewer's Blackbird
House Finch
American Goldfinch

Alan

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From: "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@best.com>
Subject: Web site update
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 22:50:12 -0800

I've added another quiz, provided an answer for the problematic mystery
sparrow
in Quiz #2 and posted pictures of the Tropical Kingbird at the Soccer Field
in
October.

Mark
--
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SFBirds Web Page                                  http://www.best.com/~eaton
Golden Gate Audubon Web Page                http://goldengate.ca.audubon.org

                "Adults are nothing but used up children."
                  - writer Theodore Geisel, aka Dr. Seuss

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n318.3 ---------------

From: Htcotter@aol.com
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] SF Kite, Shrike, Eu Wigeon
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 14:43:02 EST

Alan,
Is the Lesser Yellowlegs  report correct ?

Hugh

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n318.4 ---------------

From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Nashville, White-throated, Eursian &yellowlegs
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:44:19 +0000

SF BIRDERS,

Today, Sunday, there was a Nashville Warbler in the AIDS Marmoreal Grove
near the intersection of Middle Dr. East and Bowling Green Dr. The bird
was feeding in, and around, some white tubular flowers along the dirt
road that goes into the grove. There were also  Jays in the area.

Near by there was a White-throated Sparrow with White-crowneds on the
ridge that separates the tennis courts from a bowling green. One of the
near by Pitispourm trees showed fresh sapsucker workings, but I never
saw the bird. Varied Thrushes were here too.

There was at least one White-throated Sparrow on Lick Mountain, which is
the hill along the path that goes between Conservatory Park East Dr. and
Stanyon at Hays St. There was also a female Hairy Woodpecker, with two
Downys, flickers, and Varied Thrushes.

On my poasting for Saturday I forgot to say that the Eurasian Wigeon was
at Heron's Head Park, and Hugh cought that the yellowlegs should have
been a greater not lesser. Sorry

Alan

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n319 --------------

    001 - David Armstrong <darmstro - birds today
    002 - "Jason Yakich" <jdy@siriu - Cliffhouse, Sutro.
    003 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - BirdWatch carriage in our area
    004 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - sunday birds

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n319.1 ---------------

From: David Armstrong <darmstrong99@yahoo.com>
Subject: birds today
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 17:54:22 -0800 (PST)

Didn't have anything as interesting as what Alan
reported... but saw 12 California Quail in Strybing,
both kinglets and a Townsend's at Elk Glen Lake, (3
gadwalls still on the lake there), kingfisher at South
Lake, 2 more Townsend's at Middle Lake, green heron
at North Lake, and the Wandering Tattler and 2 Black
Oystercatchers at POint Lobos. There were also good
numbers of yellow-rumped warblers above Sutro Baths.
DA

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--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n319.2 ---------------

From: "Jason Yakich" <jdy@sirius.com>
Subject: Cliffhouse, Sutro.
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 18:22:38 -0800

Hello,

I checked out the cliff house and sutro today at about1500 today.  Foraging
shorebird flock included 16 or so black turnstones, 1 surfbird, 1 sanderling
and 2 willets.  DC and Br cormorants offshore.  Quite a few glaucous-winged,
a few herring gulls among the WEGUs on the rocks.  A large raft of
Aechnomorphus grebes was well offshore.  Female surf scoter just below the
cliff house.  Ring-necked ducks, mallards and a flock of coots in the baths.
 The usual passerines.

Jason

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n319.3 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: BirdWatch carriage in our area
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:42:47 -0800

Information on the carriage of "Birdwatch" on local PBS...KQED apparently
has taken a pass.  The SF segment will run in week 10, it is segment
310(tenth one in third season).
-

Harry:

Info on BirdWatch Season 3 in your area.

KCSM/San Mateo - Sundays at 12:30pm beginning 12/11 (season 3)

Charlie

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n319.4 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: sunday birds
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 17:26:45 -0800

Dan M and I had about three hours afield Sunday...watch for the email on
the BY2K rules for San Francisco...coming soon from Murph.
Besides all the usual stuff:
Eight Surfbirds at Seal Rocks, Thayer's Gull.
At least one Clark's in with western Grebe off Fort Pt.  A couple of
Pelagic Cor. on the south tower base of GGB.
Only 3 Ruddy Du and gulls various in Crissy lagoon; no shorebirds seen
there
Kestrel near chapparal restoration area in Presdio
Var Trush (several ?) calling, at least one RB Nuthatch in woods north of
Inspiration Pt
Anybody else noting a dearth of YR Warblers?
-----------------
The PBS show "Birdwatch" has produced a segment on birding in our city.  It
is segment #310, will air in 2000.
Here is the website BUT it has not yet been updated to include the third
season.
http://www.pbs.org/birdwatch/

Details when I have them... I'll make dubs [that means "copy"] of the
segment (VHS) upon request

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n320 --------------

    001 - Les Chibana <les@auc.com> - RE: [SFBirds] sunday birds
    002 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - [SBB] PALO ALTO-REGION 7 CBC

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n320.1 ---------------

From: Les Chibana <les@auc.com>
Subject: RE: [SFBirds] sunday birds
Date: 06 Dec 99 18:17:01 -0800

 REPLY    RE: [SFBirds] sunday birds

Harry Fuller wrote:
>Anybody else noting a dearth of YR Warblers?

They could be congregating in the South Bay. I've heard that Coyote Creek
Field Station
has been banding lots of them.
Les Chibana
Palo Alto, CA

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n320.2 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: [SBB] PALO ALTO-REGION 7 CBC
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 13:43:51 -0800

fyi
---------------------- Forwarded by Harry Fuller on 12/07/99 02:50 PM
---------------------------

Original Message from  Matthew Dodder <m@graphiclab.com>  on  12/07/99
      03:43:15 AM

      Please respond to m@graphiclab.com

To:   South Bay Birds <south-bay-birds@lists.stanford.edu>
cc:
Subject:  [SBB] PALO ALTO-REGION 7 CBC

Dear South Bay Birders,

To date, Region 7 of the Palo Alto Christmas Bird Count still has a need
for counters. Seasoned birders who would be willing to accompany some of
the less experienced participants would be especially helpful. The area,
which includes Windy Hill, Russian Ridge, Thornwood and Coal Creek Open
Space Preserves as well as Wunderlich Regional Park and a long stretch
of Skyline Blvd, is a large one and requires a lot of hiking to cover it
thouroughly.

If you are interested in helping out in Region 7, please contact me for
details.

Matthew Dodder
m@graphiclab.com
650-858-0847
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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n321 --------------

    001 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Stick, kite, shrike
    002 - "Josiah Clark" <sunbitter - Not SF...
    003 - Luke Cole <luke@crpesf.or - looking for birds
    004 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - winterers
    005 - "Stephen J. Davies" <sdav - RE: [SFBirds] looking for birds
    006 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Wednsday Crissy Field

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n321.1 ---------------

From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Stick, kite, shrike
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 19:37:47 +0000

SF Birders,

I visited Candlestick today after work and saw the White-tailed Kite in
the same spot as Saturday. I got a much better look at a bird I think
was a Loggerhead Shrike (some folks think I can't tell a shrike from a
Mockingbird). This bird, what ever it was, was sitting on a wire box in
the burned area just north of the picnic areas. I was close enough to
see that the eyes were black, it had whiskers and a thick bill with a
little hook at the tip. This bird was clearly trying to keep its
identity hidden because it was warring a black mask.

Oh well, I guess you'll just have to look for your self.

Alan

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n321.2 ---------------

From: "Josiah Clark" <sunbittern@hotmail.com>
Subject: Not SF...
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 23:23:50 PST

Hey all, checked out a celebration at Kieth Hanson's house, for Peter Pyle
this weekend. Pretty funny watching all the big-wigs I read about show up
all swankly dressed wearing high quality optics. THey sat on the deck with
their champagne studying gull plumages while their families shmoozed.
    Next morning Kieth took Ivan, myself and Jim Titz on a Bolinas blitz,
with the hope of 100 sps before noon. We had lots of good birds, un id
murrletts from Ducksberry (Kieth's first), Bl Gr Gnatcatcher, hybrid RB X RN
Sapsucker, WT Sparrow, Sl col Junco, 3 Eurasion Widgeons and 2 different
bobcats. We did have 109 before noon, and 5 more in the following 5 mins.
That place is smoking!
    Ivan, Jim and I leave for SE Ariz on Sat. Really physced about upcoming
Xmas cnts too. Harry, Ill tag along with your team. Anyone short on their pt
reyes territory? I know some ringers who may need placing.
best
     Josiah       PS had 2 Orestrus OC Warblers out my window this AM. A
third Ruddy joined the couple at Crissy. The Heron is still only sporadic
there, although fish appeared to have moved into the marsh. We did have a TV
on Sat.

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--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n321.3 ---------------

From: Luke Cole <luke@crpesf.org>
Subject: looking for birds
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:17:55 -0500 (EST)

My friend Gerry Weinberger will be here tomorrow through the weekend, and is
looking for some local birds for his California year list.  If anyone has
seen any of the following recently, could you let me know?  Thanks!

Black Scoter
White-winged Scoter
Common Murre
Herring Gull
Ring-necked Duck
Lincoln's Sparrow
Varied Thrush
G-C Kinglet
any sapsuckers

Thanks!

Luke

Luke Cole
San Francisco, CA
luke@crpesf.org

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: winterers
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 08:58:53 -0800

Driving thru the 'hood I saw Coop Hawk @ Page/Steiner yesterday morning
This morning:  photog alert--male Bufflehead on Mallard Lake where you can
get pretty close
     also there: RN Duck, Shovelers, Am Wig, etc.

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n321.5 ---------------

From: "Stephen J. Davies" <sdavies@cgl.ucsf.EDU>
Subject: RE: [SFBirds] looking for birds
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:34:57 -0800

Hi Luke
On my way to work yesterday through GGP, I noticed there were 5 Ring-necked
Ducks on the small lake on JFK, just W of the turning for 25th Ave (can't
remember the name of it - you know the one, on the N side of the road,
usually has a bunch of Mew Gulls this time of year?). And there was a 3rd
winter Herring Gull on Spreckles (been there since the weekend).

We are in town for the next 10 days or so, before we head to the UK for the
holidays.  Is there a time which might be good for picking up the books?
 No problem if not - I'm not lugging 'Seabirds' to Wales with me!
Later dude
Stephen

-----Original Message-----
From:   Luke Cole [SMTP:luke@crpesf.org]
Sent:   Wednesday, December 08, 1999 8:18 AM
To:     sfbirds@lists.best.com
Subject:        [SFBirds] looking for birds

My friend Gerry Weinberger will be here tomorrow through the weekend, and
is
looking for some local birds for his California year list.  If anyone has
seen any of the following recently, could you let me know?  Thanks!

Black Scoter
White-winged Scoter
Common Murre
Herring Gull
Ring-necked Duck
Lincoln's Sparrow
Varied Thrush
G-C Kinglet
any sapsuckers

Thanks!

Luke

Luke Cole
San Francisco, CA
luke@crpesf.org

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From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Wednsday Crissy Field
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 19:02:26 +0000

SF Birders,

Things are starting to happen at Crissy Field! This morning at 8:30 I
saw these birds in the wetland:

Western Grebe, plus one dead washed up
3 Common Goldeneye
3 Ruddy Duck
10 Killdeer
2 Willet
4 Least Sandpipers
1 Common Snipe
 gulls
Say's Phoebe

Alan

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n322 --------------

    001 - Gasstation@aol.com        - RE:today's birds
    002 - Mike Feighner <pac_loon@p - RFI for visiting birder from Sweden
    003 - "Josiah Clark" <sunbitter - First casualty by dog at Crissy Field
    004 - "Paul Saraceni" <Paul.Sar - Mt. Davidson, 12/10/99 (7:25-8:20 AM)

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From: Gasstation@aol.com
Subject: RE:today's birds
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:16:17 EST

Hi all,
    I got out briefly before the rain moved in.
Cliff House:    10 Surfbirds
                15 Black Turnstones
                 1 Ruddy Turnstone
                    very few gulls

Crissy Field Lagoon:    3 Common Goldeneye
                        3 Ruddy Ducks
                        3 Least Sandpipers
                        Western, Glaucous-winged, California, Mew and Ring
Billed                          Gulls
                        1 Say's Phoebe
                        1 Western Grebe
                        3 Brandt's Cormorants on the bay

Kevin McKereghan
Gasstation@aol.com

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From: Mike Feighner <pac_loon@pacbell.net>
Subject: RFI for visiting birder from Sweden
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 10:56:53 -0800

Greetings birders of the 5 Bay-Area birsing listserves:

I have a request for a visiting birder from Sweden from 12-20-1999 thru
1-7-2000.  Hans will be looking for the following targets:

1)  Barrow's Golden-eye
2)  wintering Varied Thrush
3)  wintering Sage Sparrow
4)  wintering Lawrence's Goldfinch

Please reply directly to Hans Johansson at beata.jaske@telia.com

Below I have included what information I could get for Hans in the
mean-time.

Thanks
--
Mike Feighner, Livermore, CA, pac_loon@pacbell.net

**************************************************************

Hans,

see below....

Hans Johansson wrote:
>
> Dear Mike,
>
> My name is Hans Johansson and I am a birder from Sweden. I have been
> subscribing at Calbird and MBB for a while now. I have noticed your name
in
> some interesting mails that you have written. I will wisit California
> between Dec 20:th and Jan 7:th together with my family. We plan to amongst
> other places wisit Lake Merrit ( Barrow's Goldeneye is a target bird ) and
> Mines Rd ( hopefully Lawrence's Goldfinch and Sage Sparrow ). I have
> noticed that you live in Livermore which is quite close to Mines Rd. ( and
> not that far from Lake Merrit ).

Livermore is about 30 miles from Lake Merrit, and I believe I have heard
them reported.  The last ones I saw recently were at Lake Solono Park on
the
Yolo/Solano County line.

I have seen Lawrence's Goldfinch only once in Winter, and these were two
among a large Lesser Goldfinch flock in Panoche Valley in San
Benito County about 8 winters ago.  And I haven't heard of any reports
this winter.

So I would like to ask you a few
> questions:
>
> Do you know if there are any Lawrence's Goldfinches at Mines Rd. this
> winter?
> If not, do you know of any other good spots to look for them?
> Do you know if any Barrow's Goldeneyes has settled down for the winter at
> Lake Merrit?
> If not, maybe there are some birds somewhere else that you know of?
> How is it with Varied Thrush, a bird that I would be very happy if I could
> see.
>
> Mike, if you have some information and some spare minutes I would be very
> grateful to you if you could write me some lines.

Last Sunday I saw two Varied Thrushes at Samual P. Taylor State Park in
Marin County while looking for the two Amerian Dippers between MP 17.0
and 18.0 along Sir Francis Drake Blvd.  I missed the dippers.

Another good spot for Varied Thrushes is in Santa Clara County at Smith
Creek Firestation half-way up Mount Hamilton Road.  Park at the bridge
and telephone, cross through the opening in the fence and hike east
along the creek.

If you like, I can post a request for you to a couple other Bay-Area
birding listserves like South-Bay Birds. East-Bay-Birds, San Franciso
Birds, and pen-bird (San Mateo County).
>
> Best Birding-regards,
>
> Hans Johansson,
> Storfors, Sweden    e-mail:   beata.jaske@telia.com

--
Mike Feighner, Livermore, CA, pac_loon@pacbell.net

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From: "Josiah Clark" <sunbittern@hotmail.com>
Subject: First casualty by dog at Crissy Field
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 00:13:00 PST

  Hey all, I recieved this a few days ago, and just got the go ahead to pass
it along from the ranger who witnessed it.
    The latest is that there is no legal code which mandates no dogs in the
marsh, apparently because it is reclaimed land which is still deemed public.
     From ranger...

     dogs:encountered a woman with a dog who was about to throw an object
     into the inlet for her dog to retrieve. i approached her (was very
     friendly) and asked for her cooperation in keeping her dog out of the
     marsh,explaining that signs will be up soon. she was not receptive and
     replied bitterly "i knew it was too good to be true". i offered
     various other places for her dog to be off leash, but explained the
     marsh is a new habitat for wildlife. she got her dog and walked off,
     basically irritated. about 15 minutes later a couple approached me
     with a concern; they had just witnessed a dog jump into the marsh area
     and attack a bird (western grebe?), another dog them joined in, other
     visitors were yelling from the bridge at the original owner to get her
     dog on a leash. she yelled back that her dog had a right to be off
     leash in this area. the other owner of the dog that joined in
     afterwards actually got into the marsh and picked her dog up to get it
     off the bird. the bird defended itself pretty well they said, and the
     first woman who had no control over her dog was very defensive and
     then complained that the bird attacked her dog. :) i was not there to
     see this event, but a very concerned couple relayed this information
     to me afterwards. i don't know if this woman was the same woman i
     encountered earlier, but it is possible. the couple expressed
     gratitude for this project and said the sight of the dogs attacking
     the wildlife was very "disturbing", but they did want to commend the
     second woman for going in after her dog, and the other visitors were
     also concerned about this incident.
     i contacted about 15 people with dogs just to educate them about the
     marsh area and to ask them to help spread the word. all were very
     cooperative and understanding, with the exception of the
     aforementioned woman.

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From: "Paul Saraceni" <Paul.Saraceni@derwin.com>
Subject: Mt. Davidson, 12/10/99 (7:25-8:20 AM)
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:58:33 -0800

Highlight this morning was an imm. Hermit Warbler (observed from 8-8:15)
associating with a mixed flock of 10-15 Townsend's Warblers plus Downy
Woodpecker, Pygmy Nuthatches, and Ruby-crowned Kinglets, foraging in the
trees 25 yds. north of and below the summit overlook.

Other sightings of local interest:

Band-tailed Pigeon 1
Varied Thrush 2
House Wren 1
Spotted Towhee 2

Paul Saraceni
paul.saraceni@derwin.com

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    001 - "Jason Yakich" <jdy@siriu - Mission Creek 1300
    002 - "Josiah Clark" <sunbitter - Important note on Dogs at Crissy Field
    003 - "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@be - Re: [SFBirds] Mission Creek 1300
    004 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - of interest
    005 - emix@netcom.com           - Heermann's Gull

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From: "Jason Yakich" <jdy@sirius.com>
Subject: Mission Creek 1300
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:09:17 -0800

Not much was happening along Mission Creek today; highlights were a Say's
phoebe on top of the Mission Bay Visitors Center sign and a dozing immature
BC night-heron in a tree.  Several YR warblers, mew gulls and the resident
RT hawk on the telephone pole also.  Ducks, grebes and shorebirds notably
absent.

Jason

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From: "Josiah Clark" <sunbittern@hotmail.com>
Subject: Important note on Dogs at Crissy Field
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:07:04 PST

    Hey all,
Quick note regarding the dog issue at Crissy, the NPS and GGNPA ARE acting
on the issue, so I dont think it will accomplish much to make a big stink
about it. Right now, the higher ups are busy dealing with the legal end and
I don't want to be responsible for taking up their time responding to us
birders. They know what has to be done, and are working hard.
   The respective agencies have been realy good about putting up fences and
recognizing the issue. Next month they will be restricting dogs entirely
from a section of beach by the Coast Guard Station to protect waterbirds,
and will surely have their ears chewed off by the Dog walkers. This closure
is a strong move which will definitely benefit birds, so lets do the
Presidio folks a favor and not make noise.
  It is also important to note that the vast majority of dog walkers at
Crissy are very respectful of wildlife space when areas are marked.

   Thanks all
      Josiah

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From: "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@best.com>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Mission Creek 1300
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:02:53 -0800

Wow, I must be really out of touch; where is Mission Creek/Bay?

Mark

Jason Yakich wrote:
>
> Not much was happening along Mission Creek today; highlights were a Say's
> phoebe on top of the Mission Bay Visitors Center sign and a dozing
immature
> BC night-heron in a tree.  Several YR warblers, mew gulls and the resident
> RT hawk on the telephone pole also.  Ducks, grebes and shorebirds notably
> absent.
>
> Jason

--
Mark Eaton                                             mailto:eaton@best.com
SFBirds Web Page                                  http://www.best.com/~eaton
Golden Gate Audubon Web Page                http://goldengate.ca.audubon.org

                "Adults are nothing but used up children."
                  - writer Theodore Geisel, aka Dr. Seuss

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: of interest
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 12:47:11 -0800

Peregrine circling Middle Lake late Thursday afternoon;  Tric Blackbirds
still in mixed flock at Buffalo Paddock, GGP
Only found one Heermann's Gull [limping] along Ocean Beacn opposite GGP in
AM, most of them must have already headed south

Fri.  AM:  GC Kinglet in with gleaners at Inspiration Pt., Presidio...
Say's Phoebe still there as well

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n323.5 ---------------

From: emix@netcom.com
Subject: Heermann's Gull
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:40:25 -0800 (PST)

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Harry Fuller wrote:
> Only found one Heermann's Gull [limping] along Ocean Beacn opposite GGP in
> AM, most of them must have already headed south

        What is known of this species' movements in the non-breeding
season, actually?  I recall they breed in the Gulf of California and are
famous 'wrong way' migrants; one might wonder whether they've gone north
for the winter! ;-)
        I don't get to the beach often enough in spring to miss them, and
my associating them with July and September also should say more about my
own habits than those of the gull...

Richard Mix, El Cerrito

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    001 - Joseph Morlan <jmorlan@sl - Cliff House
    002 - "Jason Yakich" <jdy@siriu - Crissy, Sutro 1600
    003 - "Jason Yakich" <jdy@siriu - Chain of, 0800
    004 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Alan's Sunday Birds

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From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan@slip.net>
Subject: Cliff House
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:38:41 -0800

SF Birders,

Today I took my Ornithology Class to the Cliff House where we managed
to add five new birds to our cumulative list for this trip since 1985:
Great Egret, Great Blue Heron (both in the old Sutro Baths), Northern
Pintail (offshore migrating flock), Marsh Wren (calling in dense
vegetation near old Sutro Baths), and Orange-crowned Warbler (very
gray individual probably of the race V. c. celata in Cape Honeysuckle
on west side of Sutro Heights Park).

There was also a very confusing duck on the pond which I struggled
with for quite a while, finally concluding it was probably a female
Ring-necked Duck x Scaup sp. hybrid.

The highlight for most was the very cooperative Merlin perched on dead
snags just up the hill from the old Sutro Baths.  Beautiful frame
filling scope views.  We were even able to see the tubercle in the
nostril.  Surfbirds were back in good numbers after their absence last
year.  Two Wandering Tattlers were just south of the Cliff House.  The
full list has been posted at:

http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/fall99lists.htm

--
Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA 94044: mailto:jmorlan@slip.net
California Birding; Mystery Birds: http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/
California Bird Records Committee: http://www.wfo-cbrc.org/cbrc/
AOL Instant Messenger Screen Name: aim:addbuddy?screenname=Joe+Morlan

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From: "Jason Yakich" <jdy@sirius.com>
Subject: Crissy, Sutro 1600
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:48:43 -0800

Hey all,

Highlight at Crissy was a red-throated loon in the Bay, just east of the
Coast Guard pier.  Also a common loon and several Aech. grebes out there.
The lagoon was pretty quiet, with western grebe 1, ruddy duck 2, killdeer
~8, sanderling 9, willet 2; gulls were CA 27, mew 8, ring-billed 10,
glaucous-winged 1 and western 8.

Sutro was dead shorebird-wise.  A GB heron and great egret were fishing
along the east shore, and decent numbers of western and glaucous-winged
(mostly 1st winter) gulls were hanging around the rocks.  Oh yeah, 2
Heermann's gulls landed and bathed.  No sign of herring gulls though.  The
RN ducks were MIA too.

Take care,

Jason

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From: "Jason Yakich" <jdy@sirius.com>
Subject: Chain of, 0800
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:39:34 -0800

Chain of Lakes was very quiet initially but I had some nice sightings as the
sun broke through.  Good views (though brief) of an adult sharpie at Middle
Lake, stalking a gleaner flock which was mostly YR warblers with some
Townsend's and at least once orange-crowned.  Also a pair of very vocal
Hutton's vireos, 2 hermit thrushes, 1 RC kinglet and 1 downy woodpecker.  A
RS hawk was calling continously from the grove west of Middle Lake. A great
egret, flock of mew gulls and one GW gull were around South Lake.  North
Lake seemed quiet, with 2 PB grebes and the usual passerines.

Jason

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From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Alan's Sunday Birds
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:52:02 +0000

Birding was slow today:

Stow Lake/Strawberry Hill:
Nothing noteworthy but Ringed Teal

Tennis Courts/Sharon Meadow area:
2 Red-breasted Sapsuckers
1 White-throated Sparrow (new from last week)
the albino White-crowned Sparrow was still in the flock

Crissy Field:
1 Western Grebe in the marsh, more off shore
3 Common Goldeneye
2 Ruddy Duck
10 Killdeer
4 Willet
8 Sanderling
1 Least Sandpiper

Saturday there were about 20 people helping with planting habitat for
the quail! On the way home I noticed that the Eurasian Wigeon was in the
duck pond.

Alan

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    001 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - VA-EXACTONE.COM - BW1407 12-13-99
    002 - Robinchris@aol.com        - SOMA sightings
    003 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - RE: [SBB] RFI: Parrots

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: VA-EXACTONE.COM - BW1407 12-13-99
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:03:08 -0800

---------------------- Forwarded by Harry Fuller on 12/13/99 09:02 AM
---------------------------

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      To:
cc:
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From: Robinchris@aol.com
Subject: SOMA sightings
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:17:51 EST

Monday, 12/13, in sporadic birding between 11:00am and 4:00pm,  over Howard
St, between 7th and 8th, we saw one Say's Phoebe, one male Anna's
Hummingbird, one YR Warbler, one House Finch, plus the usual Mourning Doves,
Rock Doves and an assortment of gulls.

Robin Mohr

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: RE: [SBB] RFI: Parrots
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:03:58 -0800

---------------------- Forwarded by Harry Fuller on 12/13/99 01:03 PM
---------------------------

Original Message from  Tom Ryan <TomRyan@scvwd.dst.ca.us>  on  12/13/99
      12:26:47 PM

      To: South Bay Birders list <south-bay-birds@lists.stanford.edu>
cc:   "'wtswift@aol.com'" <wtswift@aol.com>
Subject:  RE: [SBB] RFI: Parrots

I have received several responses to this e-mail last week.  I would like
to
thank everyone who responded.  From what was reported, there are at least 3
established flocks of Mitred & Red Masked Parakeets (Conures) on the
Penninsula.  These are found in San Francisco (possibly several groups),
Palo Alto, and Cupertino-Sunnyvale.

The SF flocks have quite a following (literally) and more about them can be
found at http://www.wildparrots.com/

The Palo Alto flock has recently been observed at Hoover Park, on a church
steeple at Cowper & Colorado and flying overhead at San Antonio & El Camino
Real.

The Saratoga-Cupertino flock is likely different from the Palo Alto flock,
but could be the same birds moving around seasonally or even daily.  This
flock has been seen around Orchard Supply in Sunnyvale on
Sunnyvale-Saratoga
Rd., at the Apple Computer HQ buildings, and at the YMCA in Cupertino.
They
appear to roost at the St. Martin's church in Sunnyvale.

Canary-winged Parakeets have also formed permanent populations centered
around Dolores St. in San Francisco.  Locally I have observed small groups
(<5) Amazona parrots in San Jose and Cupertino, as well as scattered
sightings of individual Lovebirds, Cockateils and Budgerigars.  The latter
are likely escaped individuals that won't survive long.

Please continue to send any observations to me and SBB.  Remember location,
date and time if you have them. If you cannot ID them to species, even the
distinction of long-tailed and short-tailed would help.

Thanks,
Tom

> ----------
> From:   Tom Ryan[SMTP:TomRyan@scvwd.dst.ca.us]
> Sent:   Friday, December 03, 1999 2:34 PM
> To:     South Bay Birders list
> Subject:     [SBB] RFI: Parrots
>
> Some of the biologists studying urban parrots in the LA basin will be in
> the
> Bay area in late January.  I would greatly appreciate it if everyone
could
> either post any sightings of feral parrots or send them to me directly.
> If
> you know of any evening roosts or if you regularly see birds at a
> particular
> time of the day that would very helpful as well.  Historical observations
> not sent to this listserv in the past would also be helpful.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
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    001 - David Armstrong <darmstro - Strybing this am
    002 - Dan Singer <dsg@isp.net>  - gulls

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n326.1 ---------------

From: David Armstrong <darmstrong99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Strybing this am
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:38:45 -0800 (PST)

Finally got my varied thrush this a.m. in the section
near the public restrooms. Thanks to everyone for
suggesting places to look!
Also a kingfisher back there, and glaucous-winged gull
and 1 r/n duck at the duck pond

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--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n326.2 ---------------

From: Dan Singer <dsg@isp.net>
Subject: gulls
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:39:28 -0800

Hi folks,

For the past three or four days there has been a growing congregation of
gulls off the Embarcadero between Mission and Howard streets attracted by
up to a dozen fishing boats pursuing a run of...anchovies? Regardless of
what the fish attraction is, today there were tens of thousands of birds.
I've only witnessed this from my car on my way to work early in the morning
and am passing on the info in hopes someone can get out there with a scope
and find something interesting. Good luck.

DSg

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n327 --------------

    001 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Re: [SFBirds] gulls
    002 - Gasstation@aol.com        - RE: Gulls

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n327.1 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] gulls
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:42:30 -0800

I believe this is the annual herring run...and US fishermen catch thousands
of the horny little guys, gut them, throw away the fish and sell the eggs
to certain supserstitious folks in another culture who still think herring
eggs are good for masculine sexual prowess...the gulls are the getting the
leavings...and preying onthe large schools that are located by fishing boat
sonar...and we pretend we live in a civlized age?

------------ Previous Message from  Dan Singer <dsg@isp.net>  on  12/15/99
07:39:28 PM ----------

To:   sfbirds@lists.best.com
cc:
Subject:  [SFBirds] gulls

Hi folks,

For the past three or four days there has been a growing congregation of
gulls off the Embarcadero between Mission and Howard streets attracted by
up to a dozen fishing boats pursuing a run of...anchovies? Regardless of
what the fish attraction is, today there were tens of thousands of birds.
I've only witnessed this from my car on my way to work early in the morning
and am passing on the info in hopes someone can get out there with a scope
and find something interesting. Good luck.

DSg

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n327.2 ---------------

From: Gasstation@aol.com
Subject: RE: Gulls
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:37:45 EST

I took an hour to check out the gulls on the breakwater across from
Municipal
pier this morning. Not much to speak of but both an adult Herring Gull and
excellent views of an adult Thayer's Gull. Beyond that it was business as
usual. The parrot flock was screaming around Ft. Mason, probably about 20-25
birds.
    Off Ft. Funston, I had 2 Black Scoters, 15 White-winged Scoters and 20
Surf Scoters. Otherwise very quiet.

Kevin McKereghan
Gasstation@aol.com

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n328 --------------

    001 - EnviroLaw@aol.com         - McLaren Park
    002 - Kevin Shrieve <kevin@lumi - 8 "representative" birds
    003 - EnviroLaw@aol.com         - Glen Canyon

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n328.1 ---------------

From: EnviroLaw@aol.com
Subject: McLaren Park
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 17:41:36 EST

I scouted McLaren Park for the CBC this morning.  Nothing too exciting
(seems
a slow year for wintering rarities), but some nice birds.  The list:

GREBES
Pied-billed Grebe
DUCKS, SWANS, GEESE
Gadwall (1 male)
Mallard
HERONS, EGRETS AND BITTERNS
Great Blue Heron
Green Heron (very cooperative today)
HAWKS, EAGLES AND KITES
Sharp-shinned Hawk
Red-shouldered Hawk
Red-tailed Hawk
FALCONS AND CARACARAS
American Kestrel
Merlin
GULLS AND TERNS
Mew Gull
California Gull
Glaucous-winged Gull (1)
Western Gull
PIGEONS AND DOVES
Rock Dove
Mourning Dove
HUMMINGBIRDS
Anna's Hummingbird
KINGFISHERS
Belted Kingfisher (Laguna Honda)
WOODPECKERS
Downy Woodpecker
Northern Flicker
TYRANT FLYCATCHERS
Black Phoebe
CROWS AND JAYS
Steller's Jay (1 - McLaren)
Western Scrub-Jay
American Crow
Common Raven
THRUSHES
Hermit Thrush
American Robin
MOCKINGBIRDS AND THRASHERS
Northern Mockingbird
STARLINGS
European Starling
NUTHATCHES
Pygmy Nuthatch
WRENS
Winter Wren
LONG-TAILED TITS
Bushtit
KINGLETS
Ruby-crowned Kinglet
Golden-crowned Kinglet
CHICKADEES, TITS
Chestnut-backed Chickadee
OLD WORLD SPARROWS
House Sparrow
SISKINS, CROSSBILLS AND ALLIES
House Finch
NEW WORLD WARBLERS
Orange-crowned Warbler (2)
Yellow-rumped Warbler
Townsend's Warbler
BUNTINGS, SPARROWS, TANAGERS, ALLIES
Fox Sparrow
Song Sparrow
Lincoln's Sparrow (1 - McLaren)
White-crowned Sparrow (including 1 gambelii)
Golden-crowned Sparrow
Dark-eyed Junco
California Towhee
Western Tanager
BLACKBIRDS, GRACKLES, ORIOLES
Western Meadowlark (25)

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n328.2 ---------------

From: Kevin Shrieve <kevin@lumiere.net>
Subject: 8 "representative" birds
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 23:14:01 -0800

Greetings SF Birders,

This is a request for suggestions for a selection of 8 bird families to
"represent" 8 different locations (at 8 different times of year, if
possible) in San Francisco:

1) Crissy Field  (December - January)
2) Baker Beach  (February - March)
3) Ocean Beach  (April - May)
4) Lake Merced  (May - June)
5) Telegraph Hill  (July - August)
6) Potrero Hill  (September - October)
7) McLaren Park  (November - December)
8) City College  (December - January)

I'm working on a website that will support "open source" artistic
collaboration, working with shared themes and particular locations in San
Francisco.  I created the Sustainable City website
(http://www.sustainable-city.org) to promote the 5-year Sustainability Plan
for the City of San Francisco but I am drawn more strongly to trying to
affect local culture than City Hall.

I'm about to print some promotional postcards for the artistic
collaboration website (Alpha Centauri Channel, San Francisco) and the
choice of "representative" birds is the last item on a big matrix of shared
themes. You can see this at http://www.a-centauri.com/ti/shasta/sf/matrix/
(login with Username "ssf" and Password "ssf" -- the site's not yet open).

Constraints on the selections:

-- single-word names (sorry! -- I need to fit the names into tight spaces
     such as the matrix of themes, and this calendar:
     http://www.a-centauri.com/ti/shasta/sf/sy/11.html)

-- something a non-birder might be likely to recognize when visiting
     that location at that time of year

I made some choices without consideration of the time-of-year constraint:

1) Gulls at Crissy Field
2) Pelicans at Baker Beach
3) Sandpipers at Ocean Beach
4) Swallows at Lake Merced
5) Mockingbirds at Telegraph Hill
6) Hawk at Potrero Hill
7) Quail at McLaren Park
8) Crows at City College

Alan Hopkins has been kind enough to send me some suggestions, but I hadn't
mentioned the selection constraints to him.  Having since discovered this
e-mail list, I thought I would pose the challenge to all of you, in case
you might find it interesting.  I will very much appreciate your help.

By the way, I have a couple thousand pictures of San Francisco on the web,
many taken at sunrises at the 8 locations listed above.  You are welcome to
make use of them:

    http://www.localgroup.org/pool/images/DreamArtScience/

Like the other site, this one is not yet open, but you can get in with
Username "ssf" and Password "ssf".

Thanks for any help.

Kevin Shrieve

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n328.3 ---------------

From: EnviroLaw@aol.com
Subject: Glen Canyon
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 15:47:25 EST

Hi all,

Scouted Glen Canyon this morning for the CBC.  Ugh - this place was just
dead.  Too many people, dogs and sharpies, maybe.

In 1 1/2 hours I tallied exactly 1 Yellow-rumped Warbler, as well as a few
chickadees (at the end), five or six kinglets, and so on.   I did hear a
Bewick's Wren, which was nice, but couldn't get it to come out and show
itself, and also saw a Steller's Jay.  When I first arrived I saw a flock of
approx 8 meadowlarks fly over (seems to be a good year for meadowlarks).
Also had a sharpie swoop over my shoulder on one of those narrow paths
through the willows, which was pretty cool.  But all in all, pretty darn
quiet.

Jennifer

--------------- END sfbirds.v001.n328 ---------------

-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n329 --------------

    001 - EnviroLaw@aol.com         - Re:  McLaren Park Correction
    002 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - SF CBC weather
    003 - "Paul Saraceni" <Paul.Sar - Mt. Davidson, 12/20/99 (7:20-8:10 AM)
    004 - Mark Eaton <markeaton@yah - Sightings of little note...
    005 - EnviroLaw@aol.com         - Re: [SFBirds] Sightings of little
note...
    006 - Janice Andersen <janander - Re: [SFBirds] Sightings of little
note...
    007 - Mark Eaton <markeaton@yah - Re: [SFBirds] Sightings of little
note...
    008 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - CBC weather

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n329.1 ---------------

From: EnviroLaw@aol.com
Subject: Re:  McLaren Park Correction
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:57:53 EST

Hi all,

Thanks to Josiah for noticing my listing of Western Tanager from McLaren
Park
the other day, which would be a nice bird, but which I hadn't meant to post
on my official list.  I entered it into Avisys with a field note to myself
to
look for one on count day, because I heard what sounded like a WETA call
once.  I didn't see it, though, and some guy training his dog loudly in the
immediate vicinity didn't help the search.  It would be nice if it turns out
to be a real bird.  I'll be looking for it on the 28th.

Jennifer

Jennifer Matkin
San Francisco, CA
Envirolaw@aol.com

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n329.2 ---------------

From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: SF CBC weather
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:25:32 +0000

It is my experence that while the temperature is warm at the moment, we
often get a cold snap right behind winter heat waves like we are having.
The SF CBC could be really cold — I hope I’m wrong.

Bird numbers on Pt. Reyes and Oakland CBCs were low. There were a few
rare birds but nothing super.

Harrison Karr is still looking for people to help with the South Marn
CBC Dec. 26. Harrison E is Harrison@epamail.epa.gov

Alan

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n329.3 ---------------

From: "Paul Saraceni" <Paul.Saraceni@derwin.com>
Subject: Mt. Davidson, 12/20/99 (7:20-8:10 AM)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:21:53 -0800

Sightings of local interest:

Am. Kestrel 1 (winter res.)
Herring Gull 1 ad. (fly-by)
Varied Thrush 2
Bewick's Wren 1
Winter Wren 1
Cedar Waxwing 1
Spotted Towhee 1

Lincoln's Sparrow 3

Paul Saraceni
paul.saraceni@derwin.com

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n329.4 ---------------

From: Mark Eaton <markeaton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sightings of little note...
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:00:22 -0800 (PST)

This is very late, but I had a VARIED THRUSH
vocalizing in my backyard first thing in the morning a
few days ago before the weather warmed up.  Also,
about 1/2 hour ago, I had a RED-TAILED HAWK cruising
through the financial district near Pine and
Montgomery.  Someone might want to check out Battery
West or some of the other hills today for raptor
movement.

Mark Eaton
eaton@best.com

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--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n329.5 ---------------

From: EnviroLaw@aol.com
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Sightings of little note...
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:33:18 EST

Interesting.  Just 1/2 hour ago I saw a Kestrel fly by my window (29th floor
of 333 Bush) and land on the Russ Building.  Things are hoppin' in the
financial district!  Who's the lucky person who has this area on the
Christmas Bird Count?  ;)

Jennifer

In a message dated Mon, 20 Dec 1999  4:08:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, Mark
Eaton <markeaton@yahoo.com> writes:

> I had a RED-TAILED HAWK cruising
> through the financial district near Pine and
> Montgomery.  Someone might want to check out Battery
> West or some of the other hills today for raptor
> movement.
>
> Mark Eaton
> eaton@best.com
>
>
> =====
> Mark W. Eaton
> eaton@best.com
> __________________________________________________
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--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n329.6 ---------------

From: Janice Andersen <janandersen@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Sightings of little note...
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:43:11 -0800

About 1:30 p.m., had a Red-tailed Hawk cruising above 6th and Howard
(near Burlington Coat Factory) and moving west. Same Red-tailed? This
one pretty pale underneath, looked like a young'un to me.

> RED-TAILED HAWK cruising
> through the financial district near Pine and
> Montgomery.  Someone might want to check out Battery
> West or some of the other hills today for raptor
> movement.
>
> Mark Eaton
> eaton@best.com
>
> =====
> Mark W. Eaton
> eaton@best.com
> __________________________________________________
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> Thousands of Stores.  Millions of Products.  All in one place.
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--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n329.7 ---------------

From: Mark Eaton <markeaton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Sightings of little note...
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:01:58 -0800 (PST)

--- Janice Andersen <janandersen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> About 1:30 p.m., had a Red-tailed Hawk cruising
> above 6th and Howard
> (near Burlington Coat Factory) and moving west. Same
> Red-tailed? This
> one pretty pale underneath, looked like a young'un
> to me.
>

Entirely possible.  I didn't get a great look at it,
but the tail looked awfully pale and may have had some
juvenile barring on it.  I was hoping it would be a
BROAD-WINGED HAWK.  :-)

Deperately seeking interesting birds in the city,
Mark
eaton@best.com

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--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n329.8 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: CBC weather
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:43:27 -0800

Did a godforsaken corner of the Palo Alto count: Skyline Ridge and it was
very windy and warm. Not many birds.  Zero warblers, 1 HUVI, 3 RCKI.
 Did get a pair of Ho Mergansers, one a bright male.  Ranger said he'd
never seen any there before.  A Merlin, lotsa Var Thrush and AMGO.  Pretty
routine, even the Robin count didn't hit 100.  Got to watch a GW Gull
struggling up the ridge from the west, fighting a stiff wind from the east.
He finally made it.
Common Raven gang of about eighteen made an early morning commute, headed
east toward the well larded dumpsters of Woodside, probably hit Buck's Cafe
first, isn;t that where all  the cyber-zillionaires do their deals?

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n330 --------------

    001 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - SF CBC People
    002 - "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@be - BirdBox report today
    003 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - GGP West
    004 - Dan Murphy <murphsf@att.n - B2K

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n330.1 ---------------

From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: SF CBC People
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:13:58 +0000

Dear SF Christmas Bird Count leaders,

I am still getting calls from people who would like to join the count.
If you need people let me know.

Alan

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n330.2 ---------------

From: "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@best.com>
Subject: BirdBox report today
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:40:09 -0800

There's a report of a SPOTTED OWL in Cole Valley on the BirdBox.

Mark
--
Mark Eaton                                             mailto:eaton@best.com
SFBirds Web Page                                  http://www.best.com/~eaton
Golden Gate Audubon Web Page                http://goldengate.ca.audubon.org

                "Adults are nothing but used up children."
                  - writer Theodore Geisel, aka Dr. Seuss

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n330.3 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: GGP West
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:43:06 -0800

>20 RN Duck in Lloyd Lake
  5 Bufflehead, 4 Les Scaup, 1 Eared Grebe plus Aechmophorus with its head
tucked (likely Clark's as there's been one in there recently) and at least
3 Thayer's Gulls paddling around Spreckels
Killdeer still at Buffalo Paddock but Ictird flock had gone to roost by
late afternoon

Any recent quail sightings in Presidio, or Steller Jays (or other
interesting birds), lemme know...the CBC looms

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n330.4 ---------------

From: Dan Murphy <murphsf@att.net>
Subject: B2K
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:29:34 -0800

December, 1999

Dear Birder,
You are invited to participate in a San Francisco City Big Year
competition, 2000.  Or to be in sync with the times B2K (Bird 2000).
The object will be to see as many species as possible within the City of
San Francisco between Jan. 1 and Dec. 31, 2000.  The purpose of this
competition is to generate some competitive interest in birding in the city
but to also improve on the understanding of species, distribution and
occurrences within the city.

The city boundaries are approx. the North Tower of the Golden Gate Bridge
and Alcatraz Island to the north and an approximate line from the south tip
of
Lake Merced east to south edge of Candlestick Point State Recreation Area.
On the east the boundaries include Treasure and Buena Vista IslandS and
most of the Bay's waters to the southern boundary.  To the west it will be
up
to 3 miles offshore or any bird which may be identified from the shore.

Currently there are 363 species on the City list.  A copy of this list can
be found at Mark Eaton's web page:

http://www.best.com/~eaton/Birding/SFBirdsChecklist.htm

Everybody is invited to participate.  If you feel that somebody you know
might be interested in this please feel free to copy this and inform them.

Rules

1.  All persons will inform me of their participation and supply phone
numbers, addresses and e-mail addresses.  This will allow each person to be
updated on the standings throughout the year.
2.  All species seen within the city boundaries and from shore within the
city of San Francisco can be counted towards a year total.
3.  All species which are on the CBRC review list will need to be
documented and accepted by the CBRC before they can be counted.
4.  All observers should expect be asked to submit supporting documentation
for species which are rare/ uncommon/ out of season in the city.  Such
birds should be documented much as they are for Christmas Bird Counts and
sent to Dan Murphy.
5.  All attempts will be made to alert all other observers to the presence
of
an  uncommon/rare bird which may be interest to others.  This may be through
a timely report to the Bird Box, by E-mail, Phone etc. or any other timely
method.  (Carrier Pigeon is not acceptable).
6.  All participants agree to submit a year-to-date count monthly.  This
should be done as soon after the end of the month as possible.  Mark
Eaton has agreed to keep this list, so please send your monthly update to
him
at <eaton@best.com> All participants will then be informed of the standings
when they are posted early the next month.
7.  Please consider whether or not to report birds on private property or in
areas where potential destruction of sensitive habitat may occur.
8.  All birders should comply with the ABA Birders Code of Ethics and plain
common sense.

DISCLAIMER:  Participation in this event in no way implies the participant
agrees or disagrees with the use of zero in determining the turn of the
millennium.  It is either the last great birding event of the 2nd Millennium
or the first great birding event of the 3rd.

Please let me know if there are any questions or comments and have fun,

                                Dan Murphy
                                (415) 564-0074
                                <murphsf@att.net>

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n331 --------------

    001 - Luke Cole <luke@crpesf.or - Re: [SFBirds] B2K
    002 - jmorlan@slip.net (Joseph  - Re: [SFBirds] B2K
    003 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - cbc preview
    004 - "Paul Saraceni" <Paul.Sar - Mt. Davidson, 12/23/99 (7:20-8:20 AM)
    005 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Big Year or BY2K
    006 - Mark Eaton <markeaton@yah - Re: [SFBirds] B2K
    007 - Dan Murphy <murphsf@world - Re: [SFBirds] Big Year or BY2K

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n331.1 ---------------

From: Luke Cole <luke@crpesf.org>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] B2K
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 01:35:28 -0500 (EST)

At 06:29 PM 12/22/1999 -0800, Dan Murphy wrote:
>Dear Birder,
>You are invited to participate in a San Francisco City Big Year
>competition, 2000.

As a recovering Big Year participant just one year into that recovery, I
will be cheering you all from the sidelines, and, of course, running out to
see the rarities you find.  For those of you out in SF Birds land who havent
done this type of thing, I strongly encourage you to do it -- it is a blast,
and an excellent way to learn the city and its birds, their status,
distribution, habits and habitats.  It is also amazing that one can see over
200 birds in our little patch in one year.

Go for it!

Luke



Luke Cole
San Francisco, CA
luke@crpesf.org

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n331.2 ---------------

From: jmorlan@slip.net (Joseph Morlan)
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] B2K
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:02:34 GMT

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:29:34 -0800, Dan Murphy <murphsf@att.net>
wrote:

>On the east the boundaries include Treasure and Buena Vista IslandS and
>most of the Bay's waters to the southern boundary.

Isn't there a small segment of the old Alameda Naval Air Station
that's actually in SF County?  Might be a good spot for Least Tern.

--
Joseph Morlan: jmorlan@slip.net
California Birding Pages: http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/
Currently in Laguna Beach, California

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n331.3 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: cbc preview
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:46:14 -0800

Checked Washington/Bat Caul in Presidio this AM: dozen quail back at feeder
which has been refilled, at least five were NOT adult males (I an chagrined
that I do not know the plumage of juvenile males...will before the CBC
day)...also a Steller's Jay answered my sound player at that location...so
I should have those species for count week even if they do not appear count
day.

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n331.4 ---------------

From: "Paul Saraceni" <Paul.Saraceni@derwin.com>
Subject: Mt. Davidson, 12/23/99 (7:20-8:20 AM)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:49:13 -0800

Sightings of local interest:

Canada Goose 5 (fly-over flock)
Am. Kestrel 1
Say's Phoebe 1
Hermit Thrush 3
Varied Thrush 2
Winter Wren 3 (1 performing complete song!)
Cedar Waxwing 1
Orange-crowned Warbler 1
Lincoln's Sparrow 1

Paul Saraceni
paul.saraceni@derwin.com

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n331.5 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Big Year or BY2K
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:49:12 -0800

Suggest we start with informal kick-off photo op at 730am New Year's
Morning, Cliff House parapet, all participants and interested observers
invited.  Rain will not cancel, of course.  Gotta be tough to face this new
millenium, so if the birds can stand it, so can the birders.

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n331.6 ---------------

From: Mark Eaton <markeaton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] B2K
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:11:15 -0800 (PST)

Yes, the very tip of Alameda NAS is in San Francisco
County.  Seeing anything there is another matter.

Mark

Joseph Morlan wrote:
>
> On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:29:34 -0800, Dan Murphy
<murphsf@att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On the east the boundaries include Treasure and
Buena Vista IslandS and
> >most of the Bay's waters to the southern boundary.
>
> Isn't there a small segment of the old Alameda Naval
Air Station
> that's actually in SF County?  Might be a good spot
for Least Tern.
>
> --
> Joseph Morlan: jmorlan@slip.net
> California Birding Pages:
http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/
> Currently in Laguna Beach, California

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eaton@best.com
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--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n331.7 ---------------

From: Dan Murphy <murphsf@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Big Year or BY2K
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:21:59 -0800

Count me out at 7:30 on the first Harry.  I'll be partying like it's Y2K the
night before and I doubt I'll be ready for prime time.  To be sure, I'll be
out birding as early as I can drag my grim remains out of the bed, but it
won't be that early.  I could make it by 9:30 or 10, but that might cut into
other folks' plans, not to mention my own.  I think a few good birds might
be
found on the CBC so I think we should spend time finding those which might
take off with the next change in weather.  It's probable that anything we
see
at the Cliff House will be there for the remainder of the season and will
return next fall.  By the way, the early response to this thing is a
resounding "THUD".  I've heard more no's than yes's so far.  It's like the
ongoing D.A. election.

Best,  Dan

Harry Fuller wrote:
>
> Suggest we start with informal kick-off photo op at 730am New Year's
> Morning, Cliff House parapet, all participants and interested observers
> invited.  Rain will not cancel, of course.  Gotta be tough to face this
new
> millenium, so if the birds can stand it, so can the birders.

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n332 --------------

    001 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Birding on the radio
    002 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Black-throated Blue Warbler
    003 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Re: [SFBirds] Birding on the radio
    004 - jmorlan@slip.net (Joseph  - Re: [SFBirds] Birding on the radio

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n332.1 ---------------

From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Birding on the radio
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:33:11 +0000

There will be a show on birding today on the raido at noon. KQED FM.
88.5

Alan

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n332.2 ---------------

From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Black-throated Blue Warbler
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:39:19 +0000

SF Birds

There was a female Black-throated Blue Warbler near McLaren Lodge in
Golden Gate Park. It was in the oaks behind those ugly purple flowers
along the path that runs from JFK Drive to McLaren Lodge (near the flag
pole). There are a few Eugena trees growing next to the lodge, these
trees were full of birds, if the warbler in not in the oaks you might
check there.

There were three White-throated Sparrows along Conservatory Dr. East
between the Bathrooms at the horseshoe yard and the construction site.

It would be great if you all could keep your eyes out for these species
we might miss on the SF CBC.

Green-winged Teal
Northern Pintail
Canvasback
N. Harrier (Jan and I had one at Heron's Head Park thursday)
Snipe
Horned Lark
Red-breasted Nuthatch
Golden-crowned Kinglet
Wrentit
Pipit
Ceader Waxwing
Loggerhead Shrike (Candlestick Thursday)
Hermit Warbler
Spotted Towhee
Red Crossbill
Purple Finch
Pine Siskin

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From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Birding on the radio
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:42:13 +0000

NPR does a new call-in show on CBCs every year. It is on now!

Alan

Joseph Morlan wrote:
>
> On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:33:11 +0000, Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com> wrote:
>
> >There will be a show on birding today on the raido at noon. KQED FM.
> >88.5
>
> A little more detail is at: http://www.kqed.org/fm/daily/991224a.html
> It it a rerun?
>
> --
> Joseph Morlan: jmorlan@slip.net
> California Birding Pages: http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/
> Currently in Laguna Beach, California

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From: jmorlan@slip.net (Joseph Morlan)
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Birding on the radio
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:20:36 GMT

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:33:11 +0000, Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com> wrote:

>There will be a show on birding today on the raido at noon. KQED FM.
>88.5

A little more detail is at: http://www.kqed.org/fm/daily/991224a.html
It it a rerun?

--
Joseph Morlan: jmorlan@slip.net
California Birding Pages: http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/
Currently in Laguna Beach, California

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    001 - "Calvin D Lou" <calvlou@i - Black throated Blue warbler- Refound
Dec 25, 1999

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From: "Calvin D Lou" <calvlou@itsa.ucsf.edu>
Subject: Black throated Blue warbler- Refound Dec 25, 1999
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 14:00:33 -0800

Dec 25, 1999

I got to McLaren Lodge at about 845 AM and found the B-T-B Warbler in ten
minutes. When I arrived, there were birds all over the places but this place
quickly died down with 15 minutes.

The bird was seen in the area between the two benches, which are to the left
of McLaren Lodge on the paved trail. I saw the bird for about five seconds
before it disappeared. I searched for another hour without refinding the
bird.

I found a Nashville Warbler in the tree which Alan spoke about.

 "There are a few Eugena trees growing next to the lodge, these
    trees were full of birds, if the warbler in not in the oaks you might
check there. "

Other birds included yellow rumps , townsend's warbler , black phoebe, scrub
jay, dark-eyed juncos, bushtit, pygmy nuthatches, anna hummingbirds, w-c
sparrows, ruby-crowned kinglets.

McLaren Lodge is in San Francisco at the corner of Stanyan Street and JFK
Drive in Golden gate Park

Calvin d Lou
louc@surgery.ucsf.edu

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    001 - Htcotter@aol.com          - CBC Birds - another Preview
    002 - "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@be - SFBirds Update
    003 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Re: [SFBirds] Black throated Blue
warbler- Refound Dec 25, 199
    004 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Re: [SFBirds] CBC Birds - another
Preview
    005 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - presidio
    006 - JRomeu@ixl.com            - Bird sounds

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From: Htcotter@aol.com
Subject: CBC Birds - another Preview
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:17:13 EST

Hi Folks,
I did some scouting this morning for the CBC and had some interesting birds.
Highlight was a "singing" male Red Crossbill in the presidio.
It was on the top of the highest pine across from the restoration area off
Washington singing its head off. (Harry you should keep your eye open as
this
is just across from the Cal Quail feeder.)
Other birds of interest, Surfbird, tattler at the Cliffhouse, 15 Forsters
Tern offshore, 1 Common Murre, 1 peregrine at Mile Rock, Coopers hawk and 1
GC Kinglet at Sutro park in the wind.
See you all Tuesday,
Hugh

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From: "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@best.com>
Subject: SFBirds Update
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 23:50:38 -0800

Quiz #7 added, quiz #6 answer, a controversy over quiz #1, B2K announcement
posted.

Mark

http://www.best.com/~eaton/Birding/Birding.html
--
Mark Eaton                                             mailto:eaton@best.com
SFBirds Web Page                                  http://www.best.com/~eaton
Golden Gate Audubon Web Page                http://goldengate.ca.audubon.org

                "Adults are nothing but used up children."
                  - writer Theodore Geisel, aka Dr. Seuss

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Black throated Blue warbler- Refound Dec 25, 1999
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:47:56 -0800

Tell himto stick around 'til New Year's Day!!!!!!

------------ Previous Message from  Calvin D Lou <calvlou@itsa.ucsf.edu>
on  12/25/99 02:00:33 PM ----------

To:   sfbirds@lists.best.com
cc:
Subject:  [SFBirds] Black throated Blue warbler- Refound Dec 25, 1999

Dec 25, 1999

I got to McLaren Lodge at about 845 AM and found the B-T-B Warbler in ten
minutes. When I arrived, there were birds all over the places but this
place
quickly died down with 15 minutes.

The bird was seen in the area between the two benches, which are to the
left
of McLaren Lodge on the paved trail. I saw the bird for about five seconds
before it disappeared. I searched for another hour without refinding the
bird.

I found a Nashville Warbler in the tree which Alan spoke about.

 "There are a few Eugena trees growing next to the lodge, these
    trees were full of birds, if the warbler in not in the oaks you might
check there. "

Other birds included yellow rumps , townsend's warbler , black phoebe,
scrub
jay, dark-eyed juncos, bushtit, pygmy nuthatches, anna hummingbirds, w-c
sparrows, ruby-crowned kinglets.

McLaren Lodge is in San Francisco at the corner of Stanyan Street and JFK
Drive in Golden gate Park

Calvin d Lou
louc@surgery.ucsf.edu

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] CBC Birds - another Preview
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:48:17 -0800

                         ________________________

To:       Htcotter@aol.com
cc:       sfbirds@lists.best.com
From:     Harry Fuller
Date:     12/26/99 02:54:53 PM
Subject:  Re: [SFBirds] CBC Birds - another Preview

Hugh:  On Cliff Walk between Camino Del Mar parking lot (with bow of "San
Francisco") and West Wash yesterday there was a mixed flock of >20
Surfbirds and BLTU at the foot of steep slope where the wrecks of the
"Lyman" and other oil tanker  ("Stewart" ?) are below the bench that faces
north to Marin Headlands.
Thanks for heads-up on the Crossbill!!

Dan: Harrier at Fort Funston mid-day Satruday.

Did some scouting in East Presidio:  CAQU at feeder Hugh mentioned.
Red-breasted Sapsucker in sapsucker tree just north of large brick house at
1337 Pope
(that's on NW corner of Kobber/Upton).  Beautiful adult I found after it
called a couple times.  After Sapsucker flew east the sap runs were checked
over thoroughly by very tame RCKI.  The main attracftion there seems to be
a shiny-leaved, small but venerable exotic tree just east of a large
hydranga.  Several other trees nearby, inlcuding a holly, have exploratory
holes  but not running sap on any other trees.   A "duhhh" for me...have
birded there dozens of times, and never noticed this tree's sapsucker
holes.

One Common Murre seen off Fort Point.  Otherwise, usual suspects there.

Good ducks (for Presidio) in Crissy Lagoon.  >10 Common Goldeneye, which
will be new bird for me in this count area, ditto the Greater Scaup (there
were 3 present).  Also two WEGR in lagoon, one was actually on shore,
preening!

Saw two West. Meadowlarks in unusual spot, Tennessee Hollow  in
Presidio...at corner of MacArthur and Portola.

At least one RB Nuthatch visible and calling (in response to my playing his
sound) at Inspiration Pt. but did NOT see the Say's Ph this time.
Did have Say's Phoebe near Visitor's Center at Main Parade Ground.
No Kestrels.  Only one Flicker heard.  No Accipiters in a full morning of
birding.

------------ Previous Message from  Htcotter@aol.com  on  12/26/99 02:17:13
PM ----------

To:   sfbirds@lists.best.com
cc:
Subject:  [SFBirds] CBC Birds - another Preview

Hi Folks,
I did some scouting this morning for the CBC and had some interesting
birds.
Highlight was a "singing" male Red Crossbill in the presidio.
It was on the top of the highest pine across from the restoration area off
Washington singing its head off. (Harry you should keep your eye open as
this
is just across from the Cal Quail feeder.)
Other birds of interest, Surfbird, tattler at the Cliffhouse, 15 Forsters
Tern offshore, 1 Common Murre, 1 peregrine at Mile Rock, Coopers hawk and 1
GC Kinglet at Sutro park in the wind.
See you all Tuesday,
Hugh

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: presidio
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:13:58 -0800

Couldn't raise any Crossbills this morning in Presidio, played sounds in
several spots with big pines & cones

Checked on Quail plumage, this time of year they should all be in mature,
gender-specific plumage, takes them twenty weeks to reach mature plumage

Alan: Ivan had said he wanted me to pick him up in early morning...that was
agfew days ago...have you told him to meet up with Hugh?  Should I call
Ivan tonight?

I will be owling at Inspiration Pt. at 6am tomorrow, so expect to hear
screech-olw and Barn Owl sounds coming from my machine...I'll be in the
white Jeep

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From: JRomeu@ixl.com
Subject: Bird sounds
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 14:34:01 -0500

Today's Audubon daily calendar entry says the following:

"To the human ear, the songs of the Northern Mockingbird sound like they
include perfect imitations of other bird species. However,
        humans hear the world in a different manner from birds;
        what sounds like one note on one pitch to Homo sapiens may sound
like many notes on varied pitches to any member of the class Aves.
        Probably a mockingbird's imitation of a Wood Thrush sounds nothing
like a Wood Thrush to another bird."

Generally speaking, of course "humans hear the world in a different manner
from birds', etc.

However are the assertions made above (which I separated into 3 line items)
supported scientifically (e.g.):
        Is there sonogram evidence to confirm that what sounds like one
note... to us may sound like many notes... to a bird?
        Is there evidence to support the assertion that other birds aren't
fooled (or are only partially fooled)?

Thanks

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    001 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - CBC HELP?!
    002 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Black-throated Blue
    003 - Gasstation@aol.com        - Re: [SFBirds] Bird sounds

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From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: CBC HELP?!
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:00:49 +0000

CBC Leaders,

I have some people from Australia looking to join the SF CBC, would
anyone like them on their team?

I also have people from the press calling me, who would like to have
their fifteen minutes of fame in the form of TV or newspaper?

Alan

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From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Black-throated Blue
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 16:09:16 +0000

The Black-throated Blue Warbler was in the same place discribed by
Calvin at about 8 am. I could not find the Nashville but did see a
Black-throated Gray Warbler on Lick Mt. The Hooded Merganser was on the
Arboretum pond, and the Eurasian Wigeon was on Stow Lake. There seem to
be plenty of White-throated Sparrows about.

How about a Black-throated ...Warbler grand slam? Check those Towsend's!

Great Birding

Alan

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From: Gasstation@aol.com
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Bird sounds
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 00:19:21 EST

In a message dated 12/27/99 11:41:47 AM, JRomeu@ixl.com writes:

>Is there sonogram evidence to confirm that what sounds like one
>
>note... to us may sound like many notes... to a bird?
>
>   Is there evidence to support the assertion that other birds aren't
>
>fooled (or are only partially fooled)?

A sonogram won't tell you anything about the perception, it only shows you
the acoustic parameters in a visual form. Certainly one can look at
sonograms
and "see" sounds that you don't seem to hear. This is the case in both human
and avian vocalization. However we might hear those things in human speech
more readily because were are trained from birth to hear them. Birds are
also
trained, even before hatching, to hear the nuances of birdsong. Its no
suprise that they perceive differences that we cannot. Also consider that
birds have more sensitivity to higher frequencies than humans, and this is
where  a lot of bird song takes place. Overall humans have "better" hearing
than birds, but when it comes to birdsong, birds have better perception. And
from personal experience I can tell you that if you look at a sonogram and
listen to the sound over and over again, you will begin to hear those things
you thought you could only see.
    As to mimics fooling other species, I think your first question answers
the second in a fashion. Because of the resolving ability of birds in terms
of audio, they are able to detect the subtle diffenrces in pitch, modulation
and timing that mimics produce relative to the originals. Additionally
Mockingbirds  use other birds phrases and song out of context. It may sound
dead on to us, but probably like gibberish to the copied bird.

Kevin McKereghan
Gasstation@aol.com

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-------------- BEGIN sfbirds.v001.n336 --------------

    001 - "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@be - B2K San Francisco
    002 - Dan Murphy <murphsf@world - SF CBC
    003 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Thank you for all the CBC help!
    004 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow
    005 - EnviroLaw@aol.com         - Re: [SFBirds] SF CBC Wrap-up field
trip tomorrow
    006 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - "Examiner"
    007 - EnviroLaw@aol.com         - Re: [SFBirds] "Examiner"
    008 - Janice Andersen <janander - Re: [SFBirds] SF CBC Wrap-up field
trip tomorrow
    009 - Dan Murphy <murphsf@world - cbc rare bird directions

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n336.1 ---------------

From: "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@best.com>
Subject: B2K San Francisco
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:56:41 -0800

I've updated the B2K page with a spreadsheet to track your B2K sightings.
Plesae use this if possible to track your sightings and submissions to me.

Mark

http://www.best.com/~eaton/Birding/B2K/B2K.html

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From: Dan Murphy <murphsf@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: SF CBC
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:50:39 -0800

It looks like our final count for the SF CBC is 163.  That's consistent with
the past 2 years.  Thanks to those of you who participated.  If you have
something to report for the count period, Dec 25, 26 or 27, and Dec 29, 30
or
31 please send details by e-mail to me.  If you see the Scarlet Tanager or
the
Saw-whet Owl please send additional details.   Alan and I haven't even
looked
at any documents yet. We have details in hand, but the more the merrier.

Some of our other great birds were Black-throated Blue Warbler, Red-necked
Grebe, Black-headed Grosebeak, Lesser Yellowlegs, Wood Duck, Eurasian
Wigeon,
Hooded Merganzer, Nuttall's Woodpecker, House Wren,  Nashville Warbler, and
Black-throated Gray Warbler.

Thanks again for being a part of the SFCBC.

Happy New Year,  Dan

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From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Thank you for all the CBC help!
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:04:31 +0000

To all of those who have asked:

1999 Eastern Golden Gate Park CBC List

Pied-billed Grebe 3
Eared Grebe 1
Double-creasted Cormorant 1
Great Blue Heron 1
Mallard 151
(Ringed Teal 1)
Eurasian Wigeon 1
American Wigeon 53
Ring-necked Duck 4
Hooded Merganser 1
Red-shouldered Hawk 3
Red-tailed Hawk 4
California Quail 12, 3 females
American Coot 125
Mew Gull 232
Ring-billed Gull 1
California Gull 10
Thayer's Gull 1
Western Gull 141
WXGlaucous-winged Gull 2
Glaucous-winged Gull 18
Gull sp. 160
Rock Dove 305
Mourning Dove 15
Anna's Hummingbird 26
Downy Woodpecker 3
Hairy Woodpecker 3
Northern Flicker 4
Red-breasted Sapsucker 2
Black Phoebe 6
Scrub Jay 16
Steller's Jay 1
Common Raven 7
Chestnut-backed Chickadee 17
Bushtit 50
Pygmy Nuthatch 65
Brown Creeper 1
Winter Wren 2
Golden-crowned Kinglet 4
Ruby-crowned Kinglet 24
Hermit Thrush 10
American Robin 102
Varied Thrush 8
European Starling 3
Orange-crowned Warbler 4
Nashville Warbler 2
Black-throated Blue Warbler 1
Yellow-rumped Warbler 46
Black-throated Gray Warbler 1
Townsend's Warbler 57
Common Yellowthroat 1
California Towhee 4
Fox Sparrow 13
Song Sparrow 7
Lincoln's Sparrow 1
White-throated Sparrow 8
Golden-crowned Sparrow 35
White-crowned Sparrow 24
Dark-eyed Junko 67
Brewer's Blackbird 185
blackbird sp 75
House Finch 75

Alan Hopkins

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From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:15:21 +0000

I tried for the Saw-wet Owl this morning but did not find it. I was
going to try for the Tanager but realized I don't have any directions
for the bird, and here is nothing on the Bird Box. Did any look for the
bird? Can any one give me directions?

I also looked for Horned Lark, Burrowing Owl, and Green Heron, also with
no luck.

I have the SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow and would like to know how
to find some of the goodies you all saw out there!

Alan

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From: EnviroLaw@aol.com
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:28:12 EST

Alan and others,

The directions I received to the tanager spot are as follows (from SF):

280 south to Serramonte, east to El Camino, LEFT on El Camino (I was
originally told right) a short distance to Greek Orthodox Cemetery (on
left), up hill past chapel into next cemetery (Greenlawn).  Bird seen in
several places, mostly near rear of Greenlawn cemetery.

I looked for a short time this morning before I was called into work
(drat!), but did not see it.  But I think that it was found yesterday
afternoon (4?), so maybe later in the day is better.

Jennifer

Jennifer Matkin
San Francisco, CA

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: "Examiner"
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:23:05 -0800

Today's article on yesterday's SF count is rife with mistakes...like saying
we never had Common Goldeneye before...we explained that we had never had
them in THAT location...but the reporter at least captured the excitement
and fun of the count, and the great timing of the Snowy Egret who showed up
for the cameras.

I think Murphy got more accurate treatment in the "Chron."

Nice story on count last night at 9pm on Bay TV as well.

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n336.7 ---------------

From: EnviroLaw@aol.com
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] "Examiner"
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:43:34 EST

Yeah, I especially liked that every other shot was of a starling!  I guess
that they are easy to capture on film.  But the snowy egret was nice,
particularly when it was dancing.

Jennifer

Harry Fuller wrote:

<<Nice story on count last night at 9pm on Bay TV as well.>>

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From: Janice Andersen <janandersen@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:31:51 -0800

I'm not surprised the Saw-whet wasn't found. Even when we knew the bird was
there, you had to be standing in the exact spot to find it hiding deep in
the willows. (I was amazed that Andrew found it, but that seems to be the
way with owls.) If you know the area--with the door--I figure it was the
"southwest corner". Unfortunately, I'm again up to my eyeballs in work, but
could probably be dragged away for a short time to look for it.

Good luck everybody!

Alan Hopkins wrote:

> I tried for the Saw-wet Owl this morning but did not find it. I was
> going to try for the Tanager but realized I don't have any directions
> for the bird, and here is nothing on the Bird Box. Did any look for the
> bird? Can any one give me directions?
>
> I also looked for Horned Lark, Burrowing Owl, and Green Heron, also with
> no luck.
>
> I have the SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow and would like to know how
> to find some of the goodies you all saw out there!
>
> Alan

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From: Dan Murphy <murphsf@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: cbc rare bird directions
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:51:21 -0800

To those interested in rare birds from the SF CBC here are the directions
given on the rare bird forms.

First and foremost the Scarlet Tanager:

The exact location was " Green Lawn Cemetary directly behind the Greek
Cemetary between Colma Blvd. and Serramonte Blvd."  The habitat was
described
as "cemetary grass interspersed with ornamental trees and bushes.  Bird also
perched in a Monterey pine, a holly bush, and a eucalyptus."  The bird was
seen at 4 p.m.  It was in and out of the canopy and was eating holly
berries.
Remember that at the count down Russell or Jim mentioned that there were two
different kinds of eucalyptus the bird was using.  Hey, these guys slipped
in
a Wood Duck too.

And of course the Saw-whet Owl:

This was found on "Bayview Hill - go up Key to end, walk up paved path.
First
brush encircled clearing on right."  No details were provided on habitat.
The
bird was seen at 8:30 a.m.

And the Lesser Yellowlegs:

That was seen in the Sam Trans Bus Yard off North Access Road at the north
end
of SFO.  You can access North Access Road from Hwy 380 at it's east end.  Go
east past the United Bldg on the right, past the marsh to the road into the
bus yard.  Park on the left and walk around the area.  It's about a half
mile.
 This is where the Red Knots and the Clapper Rails were seen too.  The bird
was seen around 9:30 in the morning.

And finally the Black-throated Blue Warbler:
These comments are from previous e-mails.  Directions on the rarities forms
weren't as good as these.

Alan Hopkins --
There was a female Black-throated Blue Warbler near McLaren Lodge in
Golden Gate Park. It was in the oaks behind those ugly purple flowers
along the path that runs from JFK Drive to McLaren Lodge (near the flag
pole). There are a few Eugena trees growing next to the lodge, these
trees were full of birds, if the warbler in not in the oaks you might
check there.

There were three White-throated Sparrows along Conservatory Dr. East
between the Bathrooms at the horseshoe yard and the construction site.

Calvin Lou --
I got to McLaren Lodge at about 845 AM and found the B-T-B Warbler in ten
minutes. When I arrived, there were birds all over the places but this place
quickly died down with 15 minutes.

The bird was seen in the area between the two benches, which are to the left
of McLaren Lodge on the paved trail. I saw the bird for about five seconds
before it disappeared. I searched for another hour without refinding the
bird.

REMEMBER THOSE COUNT PERIOD BIRDS!  I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYONE YET.  YES,
I'M
YELLING, CAN'T YOU SEE THAT!  :-0

Good luck,  Dan

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    001 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park
    002 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Presidio CBC notes
    003 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park
    004 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Re: [SFBirds] Re: [SBB] Los Gatos
Creek Park

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n337.1 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 09:13:10 -0800

notre I sent to South Bay Birds...if you have access to the "merc" check
out our little mention...gthey picked up onthe Snowy Egret being an unusual
or "new" bird for the Crissy Field Lagoon...actually did better job with
story than "Ex" which must have been their source
---------------------- Forwarded by Harry Fuller on 12/30/99 09:15 AM
---------------------------

Original Message from  Harry Fuller  on  12/30/99 09:11:37 AM

      To: Don Ganton <don@thebirder.com>
cc:   South Bay Birds Mailing List <south-bay-birds@lists.stanford.edu>
Subject:  Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park  (Document link not converted)

Small article on page 3B of the Thursday "Mercury-News"...it's under the
"Talk of the Bay" headline and is about our CBC results from Crissy Field
in the SF Presidio.  If you're up at our end of the Bay, take a look...it's
an intetresting process as this newly restored piece of habitat being
discovered and used by birds that were driven out when the marsh was filled
decades ago...already: Bl Heron, Sn Egret, Gr Scaup, Co Goldeneye (been
watching for our first Barrow's), large numbers of Sanderlings and Willet,
last fall we had Baird's, Western & Least Sandpipers, a Kingfisher...and
there have been at least six species of gull indentified (still no
Bonaparte's) ... as the newly planted native marsh plants begin to cover
the raw mud/sand banks we should see even more diversity...the march
contains a
permanent island for roosting and possible nesting
The "new" lagoon was constructed over the summer and filled with fresh
water...the outlet to the Bay was made on November 9, allowing the current
brackish water to develop and begin attracting the diving ducks, etc.

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Presidio CBC notes
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 09:35:27 -0800

Our Spotted Towhee was in the islands of brush at Tennessee Hollow, the
lowland with running streamlet north of the intersection of Portola and
MacArthur...that's east of main parade ground, southwest of Letterman,
north of El Polin.

The Red-breated Sapsucker is using tree north of the large brick house at
1337 Cole, northwest of the intersection of Kobbe & Upton

The Red-breasted Nuthatch and one Say's Phoebe are at Inspiration Point

Stallcup had the Red-necked Grebe in with the Western & Clark's off Fort
Point...that's also where we had our Pelagic Cormorants

Alan: the two quail coveys...one is @ Battery Caulfield(count week I had
ssix males and six females but suspect covey is large than that)
the second place we saw two males, two females & is at intersection of
Infantry Terrace and Moraga,
behind the Herbst Exhibition Hall (this is generally at the southwest
corner of the main parade ground, across the street fromthe theatre)...we
should alert GGNRA so they don;t come in there and start playing with the
vegetation...there are a daycare center and occupied residential area there
so somebody might complain about losing a view, or decide to pull the
iceplant and that could lead--as we have seen in the past--to a vegetation
holacaust and drive the quail out.  We saw the two coveys within a brief
period of time so I am confident that in full sunlight one group did not
move a mile to the second locale.

We tried several locales, including playing sound, for Crossbills: nada

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 12:48:57 -0800

words of caution from a South Bay birder
---------------------- Forwarded by Harry Fuller on 12/30/99 12:52 PM
---------------------------

Original Message from  Nick Lethaby <nickl@coware.com>  on  12/30/99
      10:11:59 AM

      To: Harry Fuller
cc:
Subject:  Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park

At 09:11 AM 12/30/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>Small article on page 3B of the Thursday "Mercury-News"...it's under the
>"Talk of the Bay" headline and is about our CBC results from Crissy Field
>in the SF Presidio.  If you're up at our end of the Bay, take a
look...it's
>an intetresting process as this newly restored piece of habitat being
>discovered and used by birds that were driven out when the marsh was
filled
>decades ago...already: Bl Heron, Sn Egret, Gr Scaup, Co Goldeneye (been
>watching for our first Barrow's), large numbers of Sanderlings and Willet,
>last fall we had Baird's, Western & Least Sandpipers, a Kingfisher...and
>there have been at least six species of gull indentified (still no
>Bonaparte's) ... as the newly planted native marsh plants begin to cover
>the raw mud/sand banks we should see even more diversity...

In my experience most recreated wetlands in the US fail because they get
vegetated over, so I wouldn't get too excited about all the marsh plants.
In the UK, all the specially created wetlands get intensive management to
ensure the right mix of mudflats, vegetation, open water, etc. We have
plenty of recreated wetlands in the south bay that are either much less
good than they were (e.g CCFS waterbird pond, the middle pond of the
Calabazas wetlands) or never were any good (the Emily Retzel wetlands) due
to lack of active management.

Nick Lethaby
Technical Marketing Manager
CoWare, Inc.
Tel: 408 845 7646
E-mail: nickl@coware.com

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From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:05:54 +0000

I do not think the Crissy Field wetland is in danger of being vegetated
over. The wetland was designed to maximize the tidal prism, as a result
the wetland is rather deep at mid-tide. If the wetland has a failing, it
is that the grade between high water and low water may be too steep for
maximum shorebird habitat. It is likely that the wetland will silt in,
however I do not think management will be a problem in the near future.

Alan

Nick Lethaby wrote:

In my experience most recreated wetlands in the US fail because they get
vegetated over, so I wouldn't get too excited about all the marsh
plants.
In the UK, all the specially created wetlands get intensive management
to
ensure the right mix of mudflats, vegetation, open water, etc. We have
plenty of recreated wetlands in the south bay that are either much less
good than they were (e.g CCFS waterbird pond, the middle pond of the
Calabazas wetlands) or never were any good (the Emily Retzel wetlands)
due
to lack of active management.

Nick Lethaby
Technical Marketing Manager
CoWare, Inc.
Tel: 408 845 7646
E-mail: nickl@coware.com

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    001 - "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@be - B2K San Francisco
    002 - Dan Murphy <murphsf@world - SF CBC
    003 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Thank you for all the CBC help!
    004 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow
    005 - EnviroLaw@aol.com         - Re: [SFBirds] SF CBC Wrap-up field
trip tomorrow
    006 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - "Examiner"
    007 - EnviroLaw@aol.com         - Re: [SFBirds] "Examiner"
    008 - Janice Andersen <janander - Re: [SFBirds] SF CBC Wrap-up field
trip tomorrow
    009 - Dan Murphy <murphsf@world - cbc rare bird directions

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From: "Mark W. Eaton" <eaton@best.com>
Subject: B2K San Francisco
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:56:41 -0800

I've updated the B2K page with a spreadsheet to track your B2K sightings.
Plesae use this if possible to track your sightings and submissions to me.

Mark

http://www.best.com/~eaton/Birding/B2K/B2K.html

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From: Dan Murphy <murphsf@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: SF CBC
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:50:39 -0800

It looks like our final count for the SF CBC is 163.  That's consistent with
the past 2 years.  Thanks to those of you who participated.  If you have
something to report for the count period, Dec 25, 26 or 27, and Dec 29, 30
or
31 please send details by e-mail to me.  If you see the Scarlet Tanager or
the
Saw-whet Owl please send additional details.   Alan and I haven't even
looked
at any documents yet. We have details in hand, but the more the merrier.

Some of our other great birds were Black-throated Blue Warbler, Red-necked
Grebe, Black-headed Grosebeak, Lesser Yellowlegs, Wood Duck, Eurasian
Wigeon,
Hooded Merganzer, Nuttall's Woodpecker, House Wren,  Nashville Warbler, and
Black-throated Gray Warbler.

Thanks again for being a part of the SFCBC.

Happy New Year,  Dan

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From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Thank you for all the CBC help!
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:04:31 +0000

To all of those who have asked:

1999 Eastern Golden Gate Park CBC List

Pied-billed Grebe 3
Eared Grebe 1
Double-creasted Cormorant 1
Great Blue Heron 1
Mallard 151
(Ringed Teal 1)
Eurasian Wigeon 1
American Wigeon 53
Ring-necked Duck 4
Hooded Merganser 1
Red-shouldered Hawk 3
Red-tailed Hawk 4
California Quail 12, 3 females
American Coot 125
Mew Gull 232
Ring-billed Gull 1
California Gull 10
Thayer's Gull 1
Western Gull 141
WXGlaucous-winged Gull 2
Glaucous-winged Gull 18
Gull sp. 160
Rock Dove 305
Mourning Dove 15
Anna's Hummingbird 26
Downy Woodpecker 3
Hairy Woodpecker 3
Northern Flicker 4
Red-breasted Sapsucker 2
Black Phoebe 6
Scrub Jay 16
Steller's Jay 1
Common Raven 7
Chestnut-backed Chickadee 17
Bushtit 50
Pygmy Nuthatch 65
Brown Creeper 1
Winter Wren 2
Golden-crowned Kinglet 4
Ruby-crowned Kinglet 24
Hermit Thrush 10
American Robin 102
Varied Thrush 8
European Starling 3
Orange-crowned Warbler 4
Nashville Warbler 2
Black-throated Blue Warbler 1
Yellow-rumped Warbler 46
Black-throated Gray Warbler 1
Townsend's Warbler 57
Common Yellowthroat 1
California Towhee 4
Fox Sparrow 13
Song Sparrow 7
Lincoln's Sparrow 1
White-throated Sparrow 8
Golden-crowned Sparrow 35
White-crowned Sparrow 24
Dark-eyed Junko 67
Brewer's Blackbird 185
blackbird sp 75
House Finch 75

Alan Hopkins

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From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:15:21 +0000

I tried for the Saw-wet Owl this morning but did not find it. I was
going to try for the Tanager but realized I don't have any directions
for the bird, and here is nothing on the Bird Box. Did any look for the
bird? Can any one give me directions?

I also looked for Horned Lark, Burrowing Owl, and Green Heron, also with
no luck.

I have the SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow and would like to know how
to find some of the goodies you all saw out there!

Alan

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From: EnviroLaw@aol.com
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:28:12 EST

Alan and others,

The directions I received to the tanager spot are as follows (from SF):

280 south to Serramonte, east to El Camino, LEFT on El Camino (I was
originally told right) a short distance to Greek Orthodox Cemetery (on
left), up hill past chapel into next cemetery (Greenlawn).  Bird seen in
several places, mostly near rear of Greenlawn cemetery.

I looked for a short time this morning before I was called into work
(drat!), but did not see it.  But I think that it was found yesterday
afternoon (4?), so maybe later in the day is better.

Jennifer

Jennifer Matkin
San Francisco, CA

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: "Examiner"
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:23:05 -0800

Today's article on yesterday's SF count is rife with mistakes...like saying
we never had Common Goldeneye before...we explained that we had never had
them in THAT location...but the reporter at least captured the excitement
and fun of the count, and the great timing of the Snowy Egret who showed up
for the cameras.

I think Murphy got more accurate treatment in the "Chron."

Nice story on count last night at 9pm on Bay TV as well.

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From: EnviroLaw@aol.com
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] "Examiner"
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:43:34 EST

Yeah, I especially liked that every other shot was of a starling!  I guess
that they are easy to capture on film.  But the snowy egret was nice,
particularly when it was dancing.

Jennifer

Harry Fuller wrote:

<<Nice story on count last night at 9pm on Bay TV as well.>>

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From: Janice Andersen <janandersen@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:31:51 -0800

I'm not surprised the Saw-whet wasn't found. Even when we knew the bird was
there, you had to be standing in the exact spot to find it hiding deep in
the willows. (I was amazed that Andrew found it, but that seems to be the
way with owls.) If you know the area--with the door--I figure it was the
"southwest corner". Unfortunately, I'm again up to my eyeballs in work, but
could probably be dragged away for a short time to look for it.

Good luck everybody!

Alan Hopkins wrote:

> I tried for the Saw-wet Owl this morning but did not find it. I was
> going to try for the Tanager but realized I don't have any directions
> for the bird, and here is nothing on the Bird Box. Did any look for the
> bird? Can any one give me directions?
>
> I also looked for Horned Lark, Burrowing Owl, and Green Heron, also with
> no luck.
>
> I have the SF CBC Wrap-up field trip tomorrow and would like to know how
> to find some of the goodies you all saw out there!
>
> Alan

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From: Dan Murphy <murphsf@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: cbc rare bird directions
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:51:21 -0800

To those interested in rare birds from the SF CBC here are the directions
given on the rare bird forms.

First and foremost the Scarlet Tanager:

The exact location was " Green Lawn Cemetary directly behind the Greek
Cemetary between Colma Blvd. and Serramonte Blvd."  The habitat was
described
as "cemetary grass interspersed with ornamental trees and bushes.  Bird also
perched in a Monterey pine, a holly bush, and a eucalyptus."  The bird was
seen at 4 p.m.  It was in and out of the canopy and was eating holly
berries.
Remember that at the count down Russell or Jim mentioned that there were two
different kinds of eucalyptus the bird was using.  Hey, these guys slipped
in
a Wood Duck too.

And of course the Saw-whet Owl:

This was found on "Bayview Hill - go up Key to end, walk up paved path.
First
brush encircled clearing on right."  No details were provided on habitat.
The
bird was seen at 8:30 a.m.

And the Lesser Yellowlegs:

That was seen in the Sam Trans Bus Yard off North Access Road at the north
end
of SFO.  You can access North Access Road from Hwy 380 at it's east end.  Go
east past the United Bldg on the right, past the marsh to the road into the
bus yard.  Park on the left and walk around the area.  It's about a half
mile.
 This is where the Red Knots and the Clapper Rails were seen too.  The bird
was seen around 9:30 in the morning.

And finally the Black-throated Blue Warbler:
These comments are from previous e-mails.  Directions on the rarities forms
weren't as good as these.

Alan Hopkins --
There was a female Black-throated Blue Warbler near McLaren Lodge in
Golden Gate Park. It was in the oaks behind those ugly purple flowers
along the path that runs from JFK Drive to McLaren Lodge (near the flag
pole). There are a few Eugena trees growing next to the lodge, these
trees were full of birds, if the warbler in not in the oaks you might
check there.

There were three White-throated Sparrows along Conservatory Dr. East
between the Bathrooms at the horseshoe yard and the construction site.

Calvin Lou --
I got to McLaren Lodge at about 845 AM and found the B-T-B Warbler in ten
minutes. When I arrived, there were birds all over the places but this place
quickly died down with 15 minutes.

The bird was seen in the area between the two benches, which are to the left
of McLaren Lodge on the paved trail. I saw the bird for about five seconds
before it disappeared. I searched for another hour without refinding the
bird.

REMEMBER THOSE COUNT PERIOD BIRDS!  I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYONE YET.  YES,
I'M
YELLING, CAN'T YOU SEE THAT!  :-0

Good luck,  Dan

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    001 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park
    002 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Presidio CBC notes
    003 - Harry Fuller <Harry_Fulle - Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park
    004 - Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com - Re: [SFBirds] Re: [SBB] Los Gatos
Creek Park

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From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 09:13:10 -0800

notre I sent to South Bay Birds...if you have access to the "merc" check
out our little mention...gthey picked up onthe Snowy Egret being an unusual
or "new" bird for the Crissy Field Lagoon...actually did better job with
story than "Ex" which must have been their source
---------------------- Forwarded by Harry Fuller on 12/30/99 09:15 AM
---------------------------

Original Message from  Harry Fuller  on  12/30/99 09:11:37 AM

      To: Don Ganton <don@thebirder.com>
cc:   South Bay Birds Mailing List <south-bay-birds@lists.stanford.edu>
Subject:  Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park  (Document link not converted)

Small article on page 3B of the Thursday "Mercury-News"...it's under the
"Talk of the Bay" headline and is about our CBC results from Crissy Field
in the SF Presidio.  If you're up at our end of the Bay, take a look...it's
an intetresting process as this newly restored piece of habitat being
discovered and used by birds that were driven out when the marsh was filled
decades ago...already: Bl Heron, Sn Egret, Gr Scaup, Co Goldeneye (been
watching for our first Barrow's), large numbers of Sanderlings and Willet,
last fall we had Baird's, Western & Least Sandpipers, a Kingfisher...and
there have been at least six species of gull indentified (still no
Bonaparte's) ... as the newly planted native marsh plants begin to cover
the raw mud/sand banks we should see even more diversity...the march
contains a
permanent island for roosting and possible nesting
The "new" lagoon was constructed over the summer and filled with fresh
water...the outlet to the Bay was made on November 9, allowing the current
brackish water to develop and begin attracting the diving ducks, etc.

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n337.2 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Presidio CBC notes
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 09:35:27 -0800

Our Spotted Towhee was in the islands of brush at Tennessee Hollow, the
lowland with running streamlet north of the intersection of Portola and
MacArthur...that's east of main parade ground, southwest of Letterman,
north of El Polin.

The Red-breated Sapsucker is using tree north of the large brick house at
1337 Cole, northwest of the intersection of Kobbe & Upton

The Red-breasted Nuthatch and one Say's Phoebe are at Inspiration Point

Stallcup had the Red-necked Grebe in with the Western & Clark's off Fort
Point...that's also where we had our Pelagic Cormorants

Alan: the two quail coveys...one is @ Battery Caulfield(count week I had
ssix males and six females but suspect covey is large than that)
the second place we saw two males, two females & is at intersection of
Infantry Terrace and Moraga,
behind the Herbst Exhibition Hall (this is generally at the southwest
corner of the main parade ground, across the street fromthe theatre)...we
should alert GGNRA so they don;t come in there and start playing with the
vegetation...there are a daycare center and occupied residential area there
so somebody might complain about losing a view, or decide to pull the
iceplant and that could lead--as we have seen in the past--to a vegetation
holacaust and drive the quail out.  We saw the two coveys within a brief
period of time so I am confident that in full sunlight one group did not
move a mile to the second locale.

We tried several locales, including playing sound, for Crossbills: nada

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n337.3 ---------------

From: Harry Fuller <Harry_Fuller@zd.com>
Subject: Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 12:48:57 -0800

words of caution from a South Bay birder
---------------------- Forwarded by Harry Fuller on 12/30/99 12:52 PM
---------------------------

Original Message from  Nick Lethaby <nickl@coware.com>  on  12/30/99
      10:11:59 AM

      To: Harry Fuller
cc:
Subject:  Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park

At 09:11 AM 12/30/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>Small article on page 3B of the Thursday "Mercury-News"...it's under the
>"Talk of the Bay" headline and is about our CBC results from Crissy Field
>in the SF Presidio.  If you're up at our end of the Bay, take a
look...it's
>an intetresting process as this newly restored piece of habitat being
>discovered and used by birds that were driven out when the marsh was
filled
>decades ago...already: Bl Heron, Sn Egret, Gr Scaup, Co Goldeneye (been
>watching for our first Barrow's), large numbers of Sanderlings and Willet,
>last fall we had Baird's, Western & Least Sandpipers, a Kingfisher...and
>there have been at least six species of gull indentified (still no
>Bonaparte's) ... as the newly planted native marsh plants begin to cover
>the raw mud/sand banks we should see even more diversity...

In my experience most recreated wetlands in the US fail because they get
vegetated over, so I wouldn't get too excited about all the marsh plants.
In the UK, all the specially created wetlands get intensive management to
ensure the right mix of mudflats, vegetation, open water, etc. We have
plenty of recreated wetlands in the south bay that are either much less
good than they were (e.g CCFS waterbird pond, the middle pond of the
Calabazas wetlands) or never were any good (the Emily Retzel wetlands) due
to lack of active management.

Nick Lethaby
Technical Marketing Manager
CoWare, Inc.
Tel: 408 845 7646
E-mail: nickl@coware.com

--------------- MESSAGE sfbirds.v001.n337.4 ---------------

From: Alan Hopkins <ash@sfo.com>
Subject: Re: [SFBirds] Re: [SBB] Los Gatos Creek Park
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:05:54 +0000

I do not think the Crissy Field wetland is in danger of being vegetated
over. The wetland was designed to maximize the tidal prism, as a result
the wetland is rather deep at mid-tide. If the wetland has a failing, it
is that the grade between high water and low water may be too steep for
maximum shorebird habitat. It is likely that the wetland will silt in,
however I do not think management will be a problem in the near future.

Alan

Nick Lethaby wrote:

In my experience most recreated wetlands in the US fail because they get
vegetated over, so I wouldn't get too excited about all the marsh
plants.
In the UK, all the specially created wetlands get intensive management
to
ensure the right mix of mudflats, vegetation, open water, etc. We have
plenty of recreated wetlands in the south bay that are either much less
good than they were (e.g CCFS waterbird pond, the middle pond of the
Calabazas wetlands) or never were any good (the Emily Retzel wetlands)
due
to lack of active management.

Nick Lethaby
Technical Marketing Manager
CoWare, Inc.
Tel: 408 845 7646
E-mail: nickl@coware.com

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